"We need to find God, and he cannot be found in noise and restlessness. God is the friend of silence. See how nature-trees, flowers, grass-grows in silence; see the stars, the moon and the sun, how they move in silence... We need silence to be able to touch souls."
~Mother Teresa

last post for me on this matter....carry on with your hating of Muslims, though I see it no deference than the foundation you claim justifies your hatred.

 

The word HATRED is only coming from your computer, the hatred we have is for the terrorists KILLING our military men and women and even civilians!!
You really have a problem with us not TRUSTING MUSLIMS!!!! With what is happening in the world as to ISLAM and MUSLIMS you seem to be one of the most politically correct people on this board, my opinion of coarse, and I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT to be this way even though I do not like your thoughts. I just hope and pray when it comes time to pick a side you will stand with YOUR COUNTRY and country men!
Remember, Hitler and all bad men started off good, or no one would have followed them, they gave promise and hope but look what happened. Most of our population in my opinion does not trust the MUSLIM population, and why should we? Is our population of Muslims in this country different from the rest of the worlds? Are they starting their own sect of Islam?? Should we beat , kill or treat them as second class citizens??? NO I DON'T THINK SO!!!!! I still think there is a trust issue. Trust is earned NOT GIVEN!!!!! What has ISLAM give us to trust?????
I do not believe 1 poster on this board would condone hurting a innocent Muslim in this country or another, but we will not stick our heads in the sand and be politically correct just to satisfy your or anyones thirst to BE PC!!!!!
We as a people can live with someone and not trust them! Its done every day, just look at most marriages! I think most drivers don't trust the other drivers, and don't say they do, just read the threads on CAD!!! If you leave this discussion, I think that would be bad, I like to hear what people have to say, even you and the rest I do not agree with!!!
I leave you with a question: Answer GladHands question, make a case for the Muslim religion that we can not see???? I for 1 would welcome your opinion, but be prepared for a debate, and I ask all other posters to respect you opinion, and don't want to see name calling either!!!

 

If Islam really is a so-called religion of peace™, then in every Western country where Muslims reside Muslim clerics would be very openly and publicly teaching and preaching against the jihad ideology. Hell, in Western countries they would be running public service ads via radio, TV, and the Internet all specifically designed to urge the Muslim ummah to be peaceful™ and to preach against the ideology of jihad. However, such teachings and campaigns by Islamic clerics are very conspicuously absent and are nowhere to be found anywhere.

Instead, we see Muslim clerics climbing into passenger jets and pretending to be Muslim terrorists to test airline security measures, and then when the Imams involved get taken off the flight, they use the many Saudi sponsored Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood) groups present in the USA and Europe like CAIR to sue and intimidate the airline passengers on the passenger jet that had the audacity to report them to the authorities.

As a matter of fact, one of the biggest reasons Major Nidal Hassan was able to commit his terrorist rampage at Fort Hood is because of the fear many people have of being sued by one of the many Ikhwan groups like CAIR, ICNA, MAS, MSA, and other groups collectively known as the Wahhabi lobby, as these many Saudi sponsored Muslim Brotherhood groups specialize in exploiting our freedoms and laws to use them against us to further the cause of Islam in the West and to intimidate and smear anyone who gets in their way by resisting Islamization, and it is also, by the way, a very classic example of how the Dar al Islam employs the money weapon to undermine us, which is also a very classic example of stealth jihad that takes place around the world via non-violent means. Thus, as should now be apparent, not all Jihadists are violent terrorists, as the vast overwhelming amount of jihad in the world takes place via stealth and by non-violent means.

Not to mention also that 80 percent of the mosques and madrassas present in the USA and Europe are Saudi owned and operated and everything that is preached and taught in those mosques and madrassas is strictly controlled by the Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia.

Wahhabism or Salafi Islam is the most fundamental form of Islam and dates back to the time of Muhammad, and if you think it is peaceful and that Saudi Arabia is a worthy loyal and friendly ally, then you ought to read one of the many books out on the market right now written by non-Muslim Americans who lived and worked for a time in Saudi Arabia.

You will read stories like non-Muslim women being arrested inside Saudi Arabia by the religious police for merely being alone without a male escort for flagging a cab. You will read how they were placed in medieval like dungeons where they were physically tortured and gang raped for days before their families were ever notified. You will also read many accounts of the harsh Shariah justice, where limbs and heads were amputated for petty crimes.

Thus, while some people remain hopelessly loyal to political correct multiculturalism and cultural relativism and feel they must go out of their way to always apologize for Islam and Muslims because they have been misled to believe that Muslims can only be victims and not victimizers, more astute people, on the other hand, are finely attuned to the omnipresent threat that Islam presents to the USA and also the non-Muslim world at large.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mother Teresa was a Catholic and not a Muslim.

Therefore, after you miserably failed to counter any of my demonstrably true criticisms which more than exposes Islam for what it really is and even though you refused to answer any of my queries because you couldn't do it without convicting Islam, you have the nerve to call the rest of us a bunch of haters. Hence, in your world anyone who doesn't divorce themselves from reality is according to you a hater. My what a strange world some of us must live in.

 

If Islam was truly a peaceful religion the clerics would be preaching that from the pulpit rather than jihad. Not all Muslims are violent, at least not yet. Clerics could help diffuse the way Muslims are perceived and could begin to speak out against violence. Instead we hear nothing from them but hate. Yet, when we speak out against them we are considered to be full of hate. Things have certainly changed in this country over the last 20 years or so. There was a time when we would speak out against tyranny. Christianity tries to convert the unbelievers through love and peaceful means. Islam wants to either convert or kill non believers. That difference speaks volumes to me. The media and Muslims can attack Christians and Christianity with impunity but when we speak out we are considered racists, bigots or hate mongers. There is something wrong with this picture.

 

Ok. I have one..
The Insurance thing. What's gonna happen there? I try to keep up, but I'm not too keen on this deal that Obama is working on. What happens if the insurance thing goes through? Like, I have insurance at work, does that mean I will have to buy my own insurance after Obama's goes through?

I'm sorry, I just don't understand much of it.

 

Socialized medicine does not work in Canada how will it work here in the United States ? The kind of plan Obama is proposing dictates the health care you can receive ,as it's rationed out . I'd rather keep my Blue Cross Blue Shield I have now thank you .

 

That's what we have-BCBS. I was wondering if Obama's healthcare plan was going to bother my insurance.. I don't know anything about this stuff..:lol:

 

The current Obama-ration-care proposal, which hasn’t thank God been passed yet doesn’t seek to reform anything but instead to transform American into a Marxist/Leninist Socialist state. It has nothing whatsoever to do with reform or improving healthcare or making it cheaper and more affordable for more people or to insure those people that for whatever reasons are not covered by healthcare today. What it is instead is a massive Trojan horse intended to in the long run put private insurance out of business in this country in order to force all of us into becoming wards and slaves to the state and it will also inevitably morph into ration care on a massive scale if it doesn’t cause the dollar and the government to collapse first. In other worlds, it really amounts to another attempted enormous power grab by the left. Not to mention that every time I hear a Dhimmicrat saying it will help poor people unable to afford healthcare with a straight face I gag.

 

That doesn't sound good. :hellno:
I hope they don't pass it, from the way it sounds. I like my insurance the way it is.
Thanks. I try to keep up on everything, but most of it is over my head, you might say. :eek2: