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Old 11-25-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BlooMoose
I can't - maybe someone else can. Islam in itself is a peaceful religion. It is the fanatics.
Really? And what do you base that on? Can you support that Islam itself is a peaceful religion? I mean if you are familiar with the history of Islam, its 13 centuries of existence would seem to contradict this notion and indeed prove otherwise. Not to mention that Islamic terrorists always go out of their way to cite the text and tenants of Islam to justify their acts at the same time the Muslim ummah remains silent in response to those attacks.

Nevertheless, given the Principle of Abrogation, which means that the later verses of the Koran, that is the verses that Muhammad issued later on in his career and life abrogate (replace) the earlier verses that Muhammad issued earlier in his career and life whenever they conflict, means that all the peaceful verses of the Koran, and the same ones that the Muslims like to cite in order to deceive clueless and naive kafirs, have been abrogated. That is replaced by the later verses that Muhammad issued later on in his career and life, and those verses issued later on in Muhammad’s career and life, at a time when he was a very powerful warlord and especially the ones he issued just prior to his death when Muhammad had become obsessed with killing and subjugating kafir infidels are violent to the extreme, and it is those violent and extreme verses, the same ones that abrogate and replace the earlier peaceful ones that Muhammad issued in his early career when he was very weak and vulnerable, that are the problem.

Not to mention that this Principle of Abrogation is accepted by the Ulema (clerics) of all four schools of Islamic jurisprudence that altogether governs all the various sects and branches of Islam as the official rule rather than the exception.

In general, dude, I agree with you so why are you hating on me? I hate terrorists - the things you mention are correct. Muslim does not equal Islam.
Dude, who said I was hating on you? I’m not hating on you dude; I’m enlightening you. As a matter of fact, I agreed with practically everything you said except for the silly nonsense about Islam.

In any event, you are naively morally equating Islam with other religions. Nevertheless, it is Islam itself, its texts and tenants, and what it inculcates that is the problem and not Muslims, since it is not their fault that they were born into Islam and thus due to the circumstances of their birth, which was beyond their control, trapped them in Islam, which forbids the freedom of conscience. The reality is Islam is a scourge of the world.
 
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:07 PM
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I have a lot of connections with the community of Dearborn and believe the Muslim population to be peaceful. You are lumping them all together as terrorist and that to me is wrong.
 
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Kill EM ALL And let God sort them out ...Or who ever sorts these folk out. LOL
 
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Originally Posted by dobry4u
I have a lot of connections with the community of Dearborn and believe the Muslim population to be peaceful. You are lumping them all together as terrorist and that to me is wrong.
Yeah right! And you aren’t denying reality! What about all the riots every time Israel exercises its right to self-defense?

In any event dude to prove your idiotic and absurd assertion isn’t just an idiotic and absurd assertion, can you please point to just one single peace loving Muslim country anywhere in the world where the non-Muslim population living there isn’t treated like second-class dhimmis and horribly discriminated against? How about a non-Muslim country that borders a Muslim country? Can you point to just one anywhere in the world that borders a Muslim country and that also lives in peace side-by-side with its peaceful Muslim neighbor? Just one? How about pointing to just one non-Muslim country where Muslim immigration has taken place in mass that hasn’t become the victim of Islamic terrorist attacks? And what about all the Muslim no go zones established in several Western European countries and the concomitant increases in crime? Are you going to deny it isn’t happening?

Yeah…it’s obvious you are just another self-loathing liberal that is insanely addicted to apologizing for Muslims and Islam, and like your political correct idol B. Hussein Obama, you place Islam on a pedestal and believe that Muslims can only be victims and not victimizers.
 
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:35 PM
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Here is that peaceful Dearborn, Michigan community just last July.
There is both an article you can read, and a video you can watch.

Answering Muslims: SPECIAL REPORT:Sharia Comes to Dearborn, Michigan

I hear Dearborn is already calling some areas, non-muslim no-go areas.
That is a practice these people do in other Countries, so I'm really not surprized.
The Muslims do what's called a land grab.
 
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadhog
Here is that peaceful Dearborn, Michigan community just last July.
There is both an article you can read, and a video you can watch.

Answering Muslims: SPECIAL REPORT:Sharia Comes to Dearborn, Michigan

I hear Dearborn is already calling some areas, non-muslim no-go areas.
That is a practice these people do in other Countries, so I'm really not surprized.
The Muslims do what's called a land grab.
You can hand pick articles if that is what you base your ideals on. Called creative accounting Amazing thing about free speech and the internet. The video is very Roger Moore-ish :block:

You hear? Well I base my ideals on actually knowing the community. And I am not hand picking a few extremest to base my concepts on. :roll:
 
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:39 AM
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Yeah…it’s obvious you are just another self-loathing liberal that is insanely addicted to apologizing for Muslims and Islam, and like your political correct idol B. Hussein Obama, you place Islam on a pedestal and believe that Muslims can only be victims and not victimizers.
You have no clue who I am and apparently haven't comprehended my beliefs. I am not a raciest, bigot, or sexist and base my beliefs on things I have witnessed and of my zero tolerance for hatred. I refuse to blame a creed of people because of extremists claiming ties.
 
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Originally Posted by dobry4u
You have no clue who I am and apparently haven't comprehended my beliefs. I am not a raciest, bigot, or sexist and base my beliefs on things I have witnessed and of my zero tolerance for hatred. I refuse to blame a creed of people because of extremists claiming ties.
To the contrary, I know you very better than you know yourself since all you leftists are all addicted to group think. Thus, you like all the other leftists too have been rendered blind by political correctness, multiculturalism, cultural relativism, moral relativism, moral equivalence, and indoctrinated to deny reality and to emote instead of rationalizing. Thus, you are immune to the truth, even when it is beyond apparent. Indeed, I know you liberals like I know the back of my hand and better than you even know yourselves since you are all under the spell of group think.

Moreover, how can you peer into the hearts of Muslims and tell what really is in their hearts, especially when all Muslims under the pain of hell are obligated to deceive unbelieving kafirs lest they become one of them? The reality is like perfectly indoctrinated delusional leftists you are naïve to the extreme and immune to the truth. Indeed, you wouldn’t recognize the truth even if it stared you in the face and spit in your eye.

Not to mention that if you really understood jihad, and it is clear that you don’t have the first clue, you would understand that the vast overwhelming amount of jihad takes place by stealth and below the radar of the public’s scrutiny via demographic conquest, the use of the money weapon, and campaigns of Dawah.

As a matter of fact, the reason most of the public today still doesn’t have a clue about what Islam is even 8 years after 9/11 and numerous subsequent Islamic terrorist attacks is because of the judicious use of the money weapon. Indeed, the reason the Muslims are migrating to the West and refusing to assimilate is because of demographic conquest, as they plan to eventually replace our constitution and rule of law with the Koran and Shariah. And the reason they are incessantly trying to convert kafirs is because they must ceaselessly conduct campaigns of Dawah to justify living in the Dar al Harb, which is why Major Nidal Hassan constantly tried to convert his patients.

Qital (terrorism), on the other hand, is one of the least ubiquitous and least important forms of jihad that Muslims employ to subdue non-Muslims. Yet, 99 percent of the public is only concerned about the threat of Islamic terrorism (qital) and view the terrorists as being so-called radical extremists, at the same time every other Muslim who doesn’t have explosives visibly strapped to his or her body is erroneously assumed to be a so-called moderate. Indeed, thanks to the money weapon, the public by and large is totally oblivious and completely unaware of the fact that the vast overwhelming amount of jihad is taking place right below their noses and via non-violent means.

Thus, the adage that goes not every Muslim is a terrorists, but almost every terrorists is a Muslim still holds true. However, the reality also is that every devout Muslim is also a jihadist, as the vast majority of jihad in the world takes place by non-violent means and via stealth. Hence, it is suicidal to just be concerned only with terrorism at the same time we are also totally ignoring all the many other forms of jihad that in the long run is even more detrimental to our civilization than the threat of terrorism. Nevertheless, thanks to the money weapon, a very effective form of stealth jihad, that is exactly what is happening today.

With respect to being racist and bigoted, I am not either, unless you consider legitimate criticism and the truth to be racist and bigoted and most delusional leftist do. However, unlike you delusional leftists, I have not been rendered blind to reality or the truth either, and I’m also not addicted to group think the way only you leftists have been indoctrinated to be.
 
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Now I know who the fat chick was that was driving the Swift mobile at the Detroiter handing out Swift TRUCK-N-SKEEEWL flyers to funny looking bearded gentlemen while wearing her stylish KUFI...lol
 
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Dorby4u it is like talking to a wall..

Minds are like parachutes they function properly only when they are open...
You are wasting your energy on a guy who clearly is unable to even see from your avater that you are a woman and he calls you dude.... That should be the first sign that he is clueless to life or anything that is more then two feet in front of his face...

Remember in all of his post where he talks about the Islamic religion he stops short of his true interior feelings of extermination, at the very least even BIg Jeep is man enough to speak his feelings you know where you are at with him. Gladhand is the type of guy that states being PC is a liberal move while all the time that is exactly what he is doing by insinuating extermination and not being man enough to just come out and say it... He talks of how if he were in charge he would hire the right personal to do the job just like every other wannabe politician in the world who has stated the same..

I just find myself laughing at his ignorance now, it is not even worth trying to debate him as he is unable to do such in any type of adult manner....

WHEN IN ROME.....


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