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Originally Posted by greg3564
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Originally Posted by utvolsr1
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Originally Posted by greg3564
Once again, ole Georgie Bush is threatening to veto because he isn't getting his way.
Sorry got rid of all the other stuff after this line you posted
Doesn't Bush have to have MORE then 1/3 of the votes to veto power. He didn't get that or did I hear the thing wrong and that want be the first time. :lol:
Bush can veto any bill. It's when Congress wants to override his veto that they need a certain amount of yes votes.
So basically he will veto and they will vote again on something that was not even close the first time because he is more then likely to stupid to let it go, and just waste more time/money on something instead of moving on. Got a love some of the things our government does.
Well maybe the Senate can make a few more dollars from big business.
Vols: (I hope you don't mind me contracting your login):
Civics 101.... Bush can veto the bill, but he would only reinforce his "image" by doing so. It was passed with a 70% majority. ANY Presidential veto can be overridend with a
2/3rds vote of Congress. Then..... he can veto AGAIN! But, Congress can override him PERMANENTLY with a SECOND vote of 2/3rds or more!
Bush is gonna LOSE this one!! And, although it's hard to believe, it will be the FIRST veto of his that was overridden!! This is a clear indication that even his OWN party has finally abandoned him! (combined with the majority of Congress now owned by Dems as a result of the last election.)
With a SLIM majority in the HOUSE and SENATE, the Dems could not override his vetoes in the past. (which explains why the Dems haven't forced an END to the War!) But, enough Republicans have "jumped ship" so that in SOME cases, he CAN be outvoted!
He can VETO a bill twice, but can be outvoted for a THIRD time, and it becomes LAW.... OVER his desires!! This is "supposedly" how the American voice is heard... as the Representatives in Congress... when not lining their own pockets.... are supposedly there to represent the American People!!
TIME is a commodity that the government has a surplus of! It helps them stay in power. American LIVES (lost in the war) are also a surplus to them, and they are of little concern to SOME of them!
At the base of it.... the Republicans would NOT be voting with the Amercian opinion if it were not for the fact that they feared losing their jobs in the the next election. Our government is NOT "representative" of the American Public until it comes close to costing them their jobs. Until that point, they vote in favor of the "special interest groups" whose lobbyists are lining their pockets with GOLD!!
This is why the "Republic" form of government is a failure, and the true DEMOCRACY, that this country WANTED to be founded on, is the only FAIR and JUST way of governing our people! While our "government" debates the legality of a "line item veto" power for the President..... we shoud be DEMANDING a Line Item Veto Power for the PEOPLE!!!
It would cut BILLIONS from our budget, reduce rampant WASTE in government, and return the POWER to the people! Even the Conservatives would salivate over THIS idea! Yet, we continue to let American soldiers DIE to impose NOT a "Democratic" government in Iraq.... but the same CORRUPT form of "representative" government that we have today in America! :roll:
You gotta LOVE the "American Experiment." But, I fear that in the long History of the World, like the Roman Empire, it will eventually FAIL!