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Old 05-28-2007, 09:17 AM
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The Federal help was staged JUST outside of the affected area. But, federal red tape kept them from responding! I know and realize there was a "standoff" of sorts between the Gov and Fema, but the system worked RIGHT up until the gov't was asked to come in.
Meanwhile, the local government sat on their collective A$$es waiting for some one to tell them what to do? What a joke. :lol: It seems funny how FL, MS, TX and other states have figured out how to evacuate for a pending hurricane without relying on the Feds. I sure hope the people of LA get it right next time, but I doubt it, not with the clowns they have running the joint. It is much easier to play the victim and pass the buck, with the support of the party line Blame Bush crowd like you . :lol:


But, for DAYS after the flooding, military choppers sat on tarmacs, with supplies baking in the sun, because NO ONE could give the order to fly the stuff into the city and lower it to the masses trapped in the Dome or at the Convention center. NOT EVEN a bottle of water could be delivered to those dying of thirst! The LOCAL government is NOT to blame for THIS inability of FEMA or the military to do what was needed.
You are mistaken in your last two sentences here, the local and state government were very much to blame for this. Governor Blanco would not declare a "State of Emergency", which prevented Federally funded supplies and military to enter the area. The failure of Governor Blanco has been well documented. The other states involved issued Emergency declarations before Katrina hit.

The Federal Government, FEMA, etc cannot go into a state under those circumstances until the Governor proclaims a state of emergency.


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Old 05-28-2007, 11:23 AM
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Well golfhobo...

I was reading your past few posts and was pretty sure you'd finally sliced one into the woods.

I figured you could chip it back into play but would end up with a terrible lie which I was guessing would end up a double bogie.

But son of a gun if you haven't pulled a Tiger on us and saved par.

Well done!
 
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller
Originally Posted by golfhobo
The Federal help was staged JUST outside of the affected area. But, federal red tape kept them from responding! I know and realize there was a "standoff" of sorts between the Gov and Fema, but the system worked RIGHT up until the gov't was asked to come in.
Meanwhile, the local government sat on their collective A$$es waiting for some one to tell them what to do? What a joke. :lol: It seems funny how FL, MS, TX and other states have figured out how to evacuate for a pending hurricane without relying on the Feds. I sure hope the people of LA get it right next time, but I doubt it, not with the clowns they have running the joint. It is much easier to play the victim and pass the buck, with the support of the party line Blame Bush crowd like you . :lol:


But, for DAYS after the flooding, military choppers sat on tarmacs, with supplies baking in the sun, because NO ONE could give the order to fly the stuff into the city and lower it to the masses trapped in the Dome or at the Convention center. NOT EVEN a bottle of water could be delivered to those dying of thirst! The LOCAL government is NOT to blame for THIS inability of FEMA or the military to do what was needed.
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You are mistaken in your last two sentences here, the local and state government were very much to blame for this. Governor Blanco would not declare a "State of Emergency", which prevented Federally funded supplies and military to enter the area. The failure of Governor Blanco has been well documented. The other states involved issued Emergency declarations before Katrina hit.

The Federal Government, FEMA, etc cannot go into a state under those circumstances until the Governor proclaims a state of emergency.

Oopsie.

"The state of emergency extends from Friday, August 26, 2005, through Sunday, September 25, 2005, unless terminated sooner."

Signed: Kathleen Babineaux Blanco

Katrina made landfall in Louisiana at 06:10 on Monday the 29th. Seems to me she declared a state of emergency ahead of time.
 
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But she did nothing to evacuate the rest of the people beforehand, just stuck them in the super dome while there were perfectly good buses sitting around.

There is enough blame in this one for everyone.
 
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Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller
But she did nothing to evacuate the rest of the people beforehand, just stuck them in the super dome while there were perfectly good buses sitting around.

There is enough blame in this one for everyone.
AGAIN, you weren't paying attention to the facts. Everyone that wanted to evacuate DID SO. Those who "struggled" to the Dome, were victims of the FLOODING caused by the failure of the levees. She stuck NO ONE in the Dome. They went there on their OWN! The buses couldn't have taken them ANYWHERE, because by NOW, the roads were flooded!

Now... WHY couldn't supplies have been airlifted to the DOME (and Convention center?) Because FEMA couldn't ACT without Dubya's order, apparently, and HE was still playing guitar on his porch!

I guarantee that if YOU are ever if such a disaster, you will want ACTION, and you will want it NOW! And you will blame those who have the power to make it happen, if they don't DO SO!
 
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AGAIN, anybody who didn't leave should have been put on the buses BEFORE the storm hit, with help from the locals in charge. It seemed to work in Texas.
 
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Originally Posted by countryhorseman
You are mistaken in your last two sentences here, the local and state government were very much to blame for this. Governor Blanco would not declare a "State of Emergency", which prevented Federally funded supplies and military to enter the area. The failure of Governor Blanco has been well documented. The other states involved issued Emergency declarations before Katrina hit.

The Federal Government, FEMA, etc cannot go into a state under those circumstances until the Governor proclaims a state of emergency.

Oopsie.

"The state of emergency extends from Friday, August 26, 2005, through Sunday, September 25, 2005, unless terminated sooner."

Signed: Kathleen Babineaux Blanco

Katrina made landfall in Louisiana at 06:10 on Monday the 29th. Seems to me she declared a state of emergency ahead of time.[/quote]


I would greatly appreciate it if you would quote the link to you source, since every major news agency, including CNN and Fox, which never agree on anything, posted stories the day after, quoting the Governor that she did not feel a state of Emergency was needed, and had not signed the order.

I would be greatly interested in reading your source.

Thanks,

Louis
 
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Old 05-28-2007, 02:40 PM
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Well golfhobo...

I was reading your past few posts and was pretty sure you'd finally sliced one into the woods.

I figured you could chip it back into play but would end up with a terrible lie which I was guessing would end up a double bogie.

But son of a gun if you haven't pulled a Tiger on us and saved par.

Well done!
:lol: :lol: Well done yourself, DaveP! I liked the analogy! But, the highlighted phrase makes me think you were just WAITING for me to "duff" one! :lol:

I DO get a bit dramatic at times. I get on a rant and forget that others don't know where I'm coming from, unless I build my case beforehand. I just don't seem to have the time.

Yeah, I've sliced one into the woods at times, but I can "see" the shot that gets me out of there WITHOUT having to "lay up!" Tiger and Phil have got NOTHING on me!..... except maybe a few MIL!!

Here's a revelation for you.... sometimes I am WRONG! Not OFTEN, and I can't remember WHEN, but surely I must be at SOME time! I hope that when I am, I have the decency to SAY so!

But, when you try, mostly, to speak the TRUTH, it is not often that you slice one! These people that insist on posting the "party line" spend most of their time in the "rough." Yeah, I bash BUSH alot! I throw a dig in just about everytime I get the chance. But, it is not because I believe that the Dems have ALL the answers. It is because I believe THIS man, who has taken control of OUR country, is dangerous!

I knew it before he stole the FIRST election, and I said so on other forums! I've been vindicated in my beliefs by recent polls that show that MOST Americans think he is doing a lousy job! It's not about him being Republican or conservative. It's about INCOMPETENCE.

Anyway, I rant again! Excuse me while I play through. FORE!!!!

J-U-S-T a bit to the left! I don't know why.... but I JUST can't make myself play to the RIGHT!! :lol: :lol:

I'd rather PUTT for bogie, than THINK I had a birdie, and get a TRIPLE!!
 
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
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But she did nothing to evacuate the rest of the people beforehand, just stuck them in the super dome while there were perfectly good buses sitting around.

There is enough blame in this one for everyone.
AGAIN, you weren't paying attention to the facts. Everyone that wanted to evacuate DID SO. Those who "struggled" to the Dome, were victims of the FLOODING caused by the failure of the levees. She stuck NO ONE in the Dome. They went there on their OWN! The buses couldn't have taken them ANYWHERE, because by NOW, the roads were flooded!

Now... WHY couldn't supplies have been airlifted to the DOME (and Convention center?) Because FEMA couldn't ACT without Dubya's order, apparently, and HE was still playing guitar on his porch!

I guarantee that if YOU are ever if such a disaster, you will want ACTION, and you will want it NOW! And you will blame those who have the power to make it happen, if they don't DO SO!
If I were ignorant enough not to heed warnings, of an impending danger, and used whatever means possible (including walking) to move to a safer location. Then I would definitely not blame someone that was not responsible for my decision.

If ignorant people do ignorant things, they have no one to blame but themselves. They should take responsibility for their own actions, and not expect the rest of the country to feel sorry for them. Even to date, their are hundreds, if not thousands are still sitting, yes sitting in Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, other Texas cities, and many other cities outside of Texas, with their hands out wanting freebies and blaming the system. OH wait, there are those that have turn their theiving criminal ways hear and causing the crime rate to go even higher.

These people wanting freebies, could be back in their home city, New Orleans, with a paying job, helping to rebuild their city. Instead, they want the rest of us to feel sorry for us.

Get a life, get to work, and get some faith! My tax money should not be used to pay for their ingorance.

Louis
 
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Remember the frog in the kettle? A frog jumps into a kettle and relaxes for a swim. Unbeknownst to the frog, a fire is lit under the kettle. As the temperature rises, the frog is gradually boiled to death. The frog never senses the impending danger until it is to late to do anything about it. (OK frogs can't think but you get the point!)

I fear greatly that we as a nation are gradually going back-asswards into Socialism. That's right--Socialism.

America is becoming (and has become) a nation of whiners claiming to be victims of xyz who are entitled to their fair share from the deep pockets of the rich, the haves, the elites. Therefore take from the rich and give to the poor. The hue and cry is all about fairness. Although Socialism portrays itself as being fair, it really isn't. In the end, socialism is about one class of people ruling over another class of people under the disguise of fairness.

As this entitlement mentality monster grows, it will hit the middle class like a tidal wave in the coming years--especially as the Social Security Trust Fund is projected to go belly-up in a few decades. In order to bail it out, the Feds will be forced to either raise taxes, cut spending, or both...drastically. In addition, the state and local tax burden will grow, not diminish. In short the middle class will be hammered with new taxes and "fees" in the coming decades.

Stop the madness you and I say! Elect politicians who are genuine leaders, who will take a stand against entitlement mentality crap, who will lower our taxes, and who will not play bureaucratic blame games when natural disasters hit. And yet people (who are on both sides of the aisle--dare I even say you and I) cast their vote to the politician who can deliver the entitlement(s) they so yearn for.

America seems to be up for sale these days to the highest bidder. The high bidder so far belongs to the entitlement mentality mindset--a close cousin directly related to Socialism. If that is to change, it will only happen when people in hot water start feeling uncomfortable enough to start doing something about it.
 
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