RidgeRunner (and K-9) Thanks for your kind words.

Ridge, I don't see HOW those buses were on their way OUT with people on board. Do you see the ocean/bay in the distance? And WHEN have buses that have waited for people to board in emergency situations ALL left at the same time, nose to tail? Come on.... facts are sometimes replaced by visuals, and common sense.

Those buses are OBVIOUSLY going INTO Galveston to evacuate residents before the storm hit.

Now, keep in mind that buses ALSO were available in N.O. BEFORE the storm hit for people to use for evacuation. (And MANY did just that!) But, MANY would not take them. This was reported on the news. The school buses seen in the photo most CERTAINLY were wasted, and even if not needed because no one believed the levees (that the government told them were safe) would fail TOTALLY, SHOULD have been moved to higher ground, even if empty, just for logistical purposes and COMMON SENSE!

I'm NOT defending the failures of the Democratic government in New Orleans! And, I'm NOT blaming the residents who wouldn't or COULDN'T leave so easily, and were led to believe that the 14 billion dollars dedicated to strengthening the levees was appropriately SPENT! (Actually diverted to the war in Iraq!)

P/T/D: You are making "hay" with a single photo or two, and adding "labels" to them. This situation was much more complicated than that, and your failure to realize that only shows your narrow mind.

There have been MANY devastating hurricanes on ALL coasts of this country. There have been failures by the local administrations in almost EVERY case, regardless of party. Locals just DON'T have the foresight needed for such situations. We expect our NATIONAL government to have better "planning." However, in this MAJOR example, they showed that they had NO planning! And the Commander in Chief, was fiddling at home on vacation while people drowned!

Furthermore, 21 months later, 70% of New Orleans is still a waste zone, while FEMA trailers sit going unused because of beauracratic red tape! This is the purview of the Homeland Security Department.

If Dubya appeared on T.V. tomorrow, and PROMISED me that I would get laid before I died.... I wouldn't bet a dollar on it! EVEN tho it is within his power to make it happen! Now..... I don't know about YOU, but if "I" were president, I bet I could dang sure get one lousy trucker laid!

I will be glad to continue this discussion with you, but NOT if you think it's funny to assail my rationality. I think it is YOU who needs to wake up and smell the GAS PRICES! :shock:

 

Democrat, Republican...I thought we were ALL American's first. This divide over such asinine bickering is what will and is bringing this great country of ours to its knees. It isn't politics that was responsible for the lack of reaction in regards to Katrina, it was plain old human stupidity and lack of compassion for others from the White House on down to local governance.

You jerks and fools who play into the "sheeple" mindset are exactly the kind of idiots that our "leadership" salivates over. Get a mind of your own, open your eyes. WE ARE F!@#ked.....

 

Now this I can agree with. It was quite obvious in NO that the Mayor and Gov. had no foresight. Maybe they will elect more competent officials next time around that will take action and ask for federal help beforehand, like the system is set up for. Either that or change the system and make the Federal Government have more control, which is what the Democrat party is all about. :wink:

 

There has already been a "next time around," they elected the same incompetent official. I know it is somewhat harsh, but they get what they deserve.

 

You just keep digging deeper, with no real understanding. :roll:

The Gov of Louisiana asked for gov't help a day before the hurricane hit! The Federal help was staged JUST outside of the affected area. But, federal red tape kept them from responding! I know and realize there was a "standoff" of sorts between the Gov and Fema, but the system worked RIGHT up until the gov't was asked to come in. After that, helicoptors sat on pads, supplies basked in the sun, There excuse was.... the bridge was out! DUH!!!! What did you expect??? If the Federal gov't can't or won't act to save it's citizens from a disaster of NATURAL proportions.... how can they expect to respond to a nuclear disaster?

Are you reading the post about the NEW Executive Order? Do you think all this "red tape" will make things better? The conservative gov't is expanding to levels that are incomprehensible! Would they do this if they didn't feel somewhat at fault? Do you think it will work?

It will certainly cost BILLIONS of dollars! How does a conservative feel about THAT??

I'd TELL you, but it would get me BANNED!! :lol:

You're posts, so far, are right off the party page! When you can learn to accept blame, as well as spew it, I MIGHT have time to discuss issues with you. Until then, keep drinking the koolaid!

 

Yes it was, too. The first state to grant the vote to non property owners was New Hampshire, 1792.

"The National Strategy for Homeland Security and the Homeland Security Act of 2002 served to mobilize and organize our nation to secure the homeland from terrorist attacks."
http://www.dhs.gov/xabout/strategicplan/index.shtm

So tell us....in what way have they been, as you say, ""totally ineffective"?

 

Meanwhile, the local government sat on their collective A$$es waiting for some one to tell them what to do? What a joke. :lol: It seems funny how FL, MS, TX and other states have figured out how to evacuate for a pending hurricane without relying on the Feds. I sure hope the people of LA get it right next time, but I doubt it, not with the clowns they have running the joint. It is much easier to play the victim and pass the buck, with the support of the party line Blame Bush crowd like you . :lol:

 

This recent bestowing of unlimited powers to the president seems to be only one more part of a larger political upheaval planned for our country. The plan by our "Elite Political Class" to eliminate our middle class and to rule this country as is done in other third world countries.

Please take time to read "Immigration and Usurpation, Elites, Power and The Peoples Will." The real reason that our politicians do not want to stop illegal immigration. click on http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839849/posts . It is a long read, but very important. Please take time to read it.

This article was written by Fredo Arias-King, who was a political aide to Vicente Fox during his presidental campaign. After Fox was elected President of Mexico, Arias-King made 14 trips to Washington D.C. and to both party conventions. He spoke, extensively, with U.S. public figures as well as 80 members of congress about bilateral relations. He is a Harvard educated businessman and Sovietologist.

I am 69 yrs old, I have worked in third world countries ruled by oligarchy, " the privileged few", for almost 20 years and have seen what he is predicting to happen in our country. Think carefully about the events that have strengthened the government's power just within your lifetime. These are not just isolated happenings, take a long view of the situation !

Also at http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back706.html

 

Ha ha ha! You actually BELIEVE that stuff they were selling you? I read the "link." It's PURE garbage! Do you NOT recognize "political speak" when you read it? Are our borders MORE secure? Are our Ports? Does the TSA even know what they are doing? I won't even bother to discuss this right now. Have you read the thread on the NEW executive order? If the Homeland Security Agency was doing such a "bangup" job, WHY would this new order be necessary?

Since 9/11, Bush has done NOTHING but create BIGGER government, costing more money, with more complicated beauracracy, to FAKE OUT the American "voting" public, about his concern for our HOMELAND security, while INSISTING that the answer is to fight them "over there" so he won't have to deal with them OVER HERE, because he is in NO WAY prepared to DO SO! :lol:


I think I can buy a bridge in Kansas right now. I'll need GULLIBLE "conservatrive" investors! Bus, as soon as I buy it, we'll spend BILLIONS of government dollars to raise it above the flood plain. Then, we'll "man" it with a small (2 man) unit of ex-felons in army "outfits," (of course, we can't afford to give them body armour, to Protect this bridge from any "terrorist attacks!"

Since we have proof? that at least ONE immigrant has tried to cross this bridge, we can call this a MAJOR effort to stem the tide of Al Queda in America forces!

For the LIFE of me, I can't understand why my, otherwise intelligent, Conservative friends keep BUYING the bullsh!t from this man! :shock: :shock:

I would LOVE to educate you guys.... but I just don't know where to start!

I suspect the "disconnect" started around the 3rd grade! But, I just really can't remember BACK that far! When I was growing up, the prevalent phrase was, "I'm from the government, and I'm here to HELP you." Some of us INSTANTLY "got" that!!! Those who didn't became "conservatives!" :lol:

 

Looks to me like both parties admitted failure.