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Old 05-28-2007, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller
But she did nothing to evacuate the rest of the people beforehand, just stuck them in the super dome while there were perfectly good buses sitting around.

There is enough blame in this one for everyone.
That's not the issue I was referring to. Excellent deflection, though!

Although, the problem with your point is that the buses would have been underwater when you purport she was "sticking them in the super dome". The super dome was a designated shelter for evacuees with special needs. Basically, for people who could not or did not want to leave the city.
 
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by countryhorseman
You are mistaken in your last two sentences here, the local and state government were very much to blame for this. Governor Blanco would not declare a "State of Emergency", which prevented Federally funded supplies and military to enter the area. The failure of Governor Blanco has been well documented. The other states involved issued Emergency declarations before Katrina hit.

The Federal Government, FEMA, etc cannot go into a state under those circumstances until the Governor proclaims a state of emergency.

Oopsie.

"The state of emergency extends from Friday, August 26, 2005, through Sunday, September 25, 2005, unless terminated sooner."

Signed: Kathleen Babineaux Blanco

Katrina made landfall in Louisiana at 06:10 on Monday the 29th. Seems to me she declared a state of emergency ahead of time.

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I would greatly appreciate it if you would quote the link to you source, since every major news agency, including CNN and Fox, which never agree on anything, posted stories the day after, quoting the Governor that she did not feel a state of Emergency was needed, and had not signed the order.

I would be greatly interested in reading your source.

Thanks,

Louis
The source is in the link: www.gov.state.la.us
 
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AGAIN, anybody who didn't leave should have been put on the buses BEFORE the storm hit, with help from the locals in charge. It seemed to work in Texas.
In THIS country, you cannot be FORCED to evacuate! Even under the decree of a "forced evacuation." I may not agree with it, but it is the practice of the LAW!

Besides, as I mentioned, N.O. was NOT expecting a DIRECT hit! Therefore, evacuation BEFOREHAND was somewhat "voluntary."

You REALLY need to learn about the laws, and the facts. Do you even LIVE in a coastal area prone to Hurricanes?

Why do I feel like a teacher in a third grade class on Civics?? :shock:

Oh yeah, it's because I have to keep REPEATING myself for the "children!"
 
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AGAIN, anybody who didn't leave should have been put on the buses BEFORE the storm hit, with help from the locals in charge. It seemed to work in Texas.
In THIS country, you cannot be FORCED to evacuate! Even under the decree of a "forced evacuation." I may not agree with it, but it is the practice of the LAW!

Besides, as I mentioned, N.O. was NOT expecting a DIRECT hit! Therefore, evacuation BEFOREHAND was somewhat "voluntary."

You REALLY need to learn about the laws, and the facts. Do you even LIVE in a coastal area prone to Hurricanes?

Why do I feel like a teacher in a third grade class on Civics?? :shock:

Oh yeah, it's because I have to keep REPEATING myself for the "children!"
I was around for this whole emergency. N.O. was expecting a direct hit. So was Houston. It kept on turning. Even I learned that in the third grade.
 
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I was around for this whole emergency. N.O. was expecting a direct hit. So was Houston. It kept on turning. Even I learned that in the third grade.
By 11:00 PM EDT (the Friday before the Monday morning when it hit landfall), the National Hurricane Center predicted that Hurricane Katrina would strike the town of Buras-Triumph, Louisiana, 66 miles (106 km) southeast of New Orleans.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/30/St...ng_chief.shtml
 
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Originally Posted by golfhobo

Besides, as I mentioned, N.O. was NOT expecting a DIRECT hit! Therefore, evacuation BEFOREHAND was somewhat "voluntary."
If N.O. wasn't expecting a direct hit then why the state of emergency?

"The state of emergency extends from Friday, August 26, 2005, through Sunday, September 25, 2005, unless terminated sooner."

Signed: Kathleen Babineaux Blanco

Katrina made landfall in Louisiana at 06:10 on Monday the 29th. Seems to me she declared a state of emergency ahead of time.


And if in this country you cannot be forced to be evacuated, how is it Bush's fault many stayed? Was he going to force them? That would be illegal wouldn't it?:?

Why do I feel like this like a rerun of Al Franken and Randy Rhoades on Air America ?

Because I keep hearing the same blame Bush rhetoric over and over. :lol:

PTD is waiting for the part where Bush is at fault for all the looting of wide screen TV's and Nikes.
 
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Originally Posted by golfhobo

Besides, as I mentioned, N.O. was NOT expecting a DIRECT hit! Therefore, evacuation BEFOREHAND was somewhat "voluntary."
If N.O. wasn't expecting a direct hit then why the state of emergency?

"The state of emergency extends from Friday, August 26, 2005, through Sunday, September 25, 2005, unless terminated sooner."

Signed: Kathleen Babineaux Blanco

Katrina made landfall in Louisiana at 06:10 on Monday the 29th. Seems to me she declared a state of emergency ahead of time.


And if in this country you cannot be forced to be evacuated, how is it Bush's fault many stayed? Was he going to force them? I could here that now.

Why do I feel like this like a rerun of Al Franken and Randy Rhoades on Air America ?

Because I keep hearing the same blame Bush rhetoric over and over. :lol:

PTD is waiting for the part where Bush is at fault for all the looting of wide screen TV's and Nikes.
Does your bolded question really need an answer? Think about what state of emergency really means.
 
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Obviously someone thought Katrina was a big enough threat to call for a state of emergency, yet GH claims they didn't think they would get a direct hit. Hopefully if there is a next time N.O. will call FL and get some advice on how to do it right.
 
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And if in this country you cannot be forced to be evacuated, how is it Bush's fault many stayed? Was he going to force them? That would be illegal wouldn't it?:?

Why do I feel like this like a rerun of Al Franken and Randy Rhoades on Air America ?

Because I keep hearing the same blame Bush rhetoric over and over. :lol:

PTD is waiting for the part where Bush is at fault for all the looting of wide screen TV's and Nikes.
I will have to archive these post, since it will not be long and they are crying because Hillary is in office. They will be crying because U.N. security forces will be knocking on your doors to take your guns, they will be taking you computers, among other things. The Iron Skirt will be ruling. Oh, forgot, after they take your guns, you will be fighting the muslims and chinese off with clubs, since all they are waiting for is the Iron Skirt to take office, and silly willy hiding under the desk this time instead of Monica.
 

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