I don't want to argue about free speech Rev because we can interpret in hundreds of different ways. The point is O&A were a (XL) explicit language channel and they played the disclaimer all the time. Worst things have been discussed on the O&A show and nothing was ever said "you can't say that". I have even heard worst things on the Ron and Fez show and nothing has ever been said.

There were no rules. There was no criteria they had to follow.

Any of the regular listeners know what I am talking about, someone who *again* gets information about the show from the media isn't getting the whole story about XM and O&A.

It started when Michael Richards went on his rant, then Imus getting fired, then JV and Elvis. It's that "unwritten" law that someone imposed that you have the right to not be offended.

 

So it's still only a 30 day suspension right?

 

I still haven't been able to get onto Wackbag, always in pat battle mode.

Angry typing guy: What is pat battle mode? What are you talking about? I'm an O&A expert but I don't know what that means.

 

Let's assume that 10,000 listeners cancel because of this O&A thing. XM has 8,000,000 subscribers. That's just over one tenth of one percent. XM won't get any message, because there is no message to be gotten.

What they said was not deemed illegal, it was just unacceptable in the eyes of the owners of the satellite company. There are limits on what's acceptable, even in a censorship free environment. Howard Stern is very good at understanding those lines, because he learned them the hard way. That's how he survives where idiots fail. They should have dumped from the man saying he would rape Condoleeza Rice and talking about punching the 1st lady in the face. They didn't. Pick your battles.

This is a business decision on XM's part, nothing more. The government is overseeing the potential merger of XM and Sirus, and this episode would be a black eye on the satellite companies. They did what they had to.

These idiots who are smashing their XM units are pathetic. You can replace the hardware for about $10.00, if you buy a used one. Wow - what a bold statement on their fans part. :roll:

I think the end result will be that their lack of a consistent audience outside of the few hardcore fans will be made known. XM's stock price certainly didn't hurt much from the whole thing.

 

I've never heard of Pat Battle Mode either - lol

So far, this is what's been posted (to sum it up):

They're not "officially" fired
Anthony has cancelled all of his XM subscriptions
Brother Elmo is asking all pests to cancel their subscriptions
Everyone is saying to write a letter to your senators/house of rep with an "against the monopoly" concerning the xm/sirius merger

Keep trying to get in. Even when it says the board is "locked down" because of activity, keep refreshing the page. It works eventually.

I was making a post about 1/2 way through page 125. By the time I typed the short post and sent it there was 3 additional pages added to the topic.

Hate to see their bandwidth bill next month - lol

 

I know that Stern read a statement by them this morning, where they were asking him to "join them" in their fight. :roll:


Sounds like a move of desperation to me.

 

Ok - we'll use your numbers of 10,000 subscribers cancelling.

From the poll on wackbag, the average number of units being cancelled per subscriber is 2.025. So, now we're talking about 20,050 xm units turned off.

Hmmm - the first unit is $12.95/month - that's $129,500.00 per month. Each additional unit is, what, $6.95/month? That's an additional 71,237.50 per month. Now we're up to $200,737.50 per month of revenue lost. That equals a yearly total of $2,408,850.00.

Now, take into account that XM is in trouble financially. Can they afford to take a $2.5m per year loss? How is that going to affect the precious merger?

As to your Howard Stern comment. Yes, I heard them make that statement live. Maybe they were desperate, but apparantly you don't have the brains to understand WHY they made it. Remember this - they're not the only shock jocks in the country. Who is a bigger name than them? Well, if O & A are gone, who's next in line?

 

Apparently so. Consider that they have 8 million subscribers. That 2.5 million isn't much when you put it against what they earn yearly. Let's assume that you are correct, and each subscriber has 2.025 radios. That means that XM has a subscriber base of 3,950,617. Each subscriber has one radio at $12.95, and one at $6.95, for a total of $19.90 per month. That means XM is taking in 78 million dollars per month in subscribers. That's $943,407,339.6 per year.

$2.5 million vs. $943.5 million..... hmmmmm........

Nice pointless personal attack. :roll:

Who is next in line? The next idiot who does something as stupid as what they did. Will that be Stern? Who knows - if he is stupid enough to do what they did, then he deserves the same fate.

They aren't the martyrs you are trying to make them out to be. This isn't about free speech. XM is running a business, and they need to look out for their own interests first and foremost. They did what was best for the company as a whole. O&A were just a tiny portion of that company. They will not make or break it.

 

Well, ppl drive volkswagons and mitsubishi's(makers of the zero's that bombed pearl harbor). But ppl get over it. but what does that have top do with changing channels?

And if they gave David duke a talk show, then you'd listen to another station, but that doesn't mean he can't have one. Doesn't mean OJ Simpson can't have a talk show either.

I'd just fear for my life if i were them and had a talk show... :shock:

 

Pat Battle is a reporter in NYC I think and one day the boys were making fun of her name and it just grew out of that 1-2 day bit,it's another example of the the way things just grow out of that show,some stupid comment gets them off on a tangent and it lives on.

you sunk my Pat Battleship
Pat Battlestar Gallatica
Pat Battle of the network stars
you get the idea