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Old 12-09-2007, 05:22 AM
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Well here is an update!!

My sugeon is finaly back from Iraq, I have an appointment tomorrow monday. So I am kinda excited and a little aprehinsive. If I choose to go through sugery according to 2 other surgeons I have a 50-75% chance of being worse, and loosing my left friend.. But that leaves a 50-25% chance of being better.. What to choose!!?
 
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Slimland I was told I would only have a 20 chance of regaining full mobilty in my shoulder I have 100% now compaired to the 60% I had prior to the surgery. Do it and get better trust me the pain free life is BETTER.
 
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Originally Posted by Slimland
Well here is an update!!

My sugeon is finaly back from Iraq, I have an appointment tomorrow monday. So I am kinda excited and a little aprehinsive. If I choose to go through sugery according to 2 other surgeons I have a 50-75% chance of being worse, and loosing my left friend.. But that leaves a 50-25% chance of being better.. What to choose!!?
I was just wondering if your surgeon was back. Wow, so you have a lot to think about.

And today's the day, the appointment.

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Originally Posted by Slimland
Well here is an update!!

My sugeon is finaly back from Iraq, I have an appointment tomorrow monday. So I am kinda excited and a little aprehinsive. If I choose to go through sugery according to 2 other surgeons I have a 50-75% chance of being worse, and loosing my left friend.. But that leaves a 50-25% chance of being better.. What to choose!!?
I was just wondering if your surgeon was back. Wow, so you have a lot to think about.

And today's the day, the appointment.

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Just wanted you to know that I'm thinking about you!
Thankyou Consider. And IronEagle
 
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Well I seen my surgeon, and she has told me, we have done all we can do. The only thing left is to take out the mesh.. So I am scheduled to go through surgery the 16th of January 2008..

She has told me what could happen in worse case scenario's, and this is what they are.
50% chance of more pain and being worse!
50% chance of loosing left Testicle, femoral nerve, and Inguinal Nerve. In addition other nerve Damage in the area. with the possibility of lose of some muscle mass in the inner thigh from missing nerves.
Possible chance of plug from mesh being attached to intestines, thus making surgery longer than anticipated.. This is unlikely, considering I probly would already be doubled over in excruciating pain..

Best case scenarios
50% chance of being better, but still will most likely loose the 3 mentioned above.


It seems that the worst is more, but it is not. it is still 50%..
The Mesh that I have is the same brand of mesh on the recall, Just NOT the same Type. From what my surgeon could tell from my previous visits, and 2 cat scans. Is I probably pulled the mesh free from some of the stitching. That was the popping feeling I had felt over a year ago, which increased the pain that was already there. There is a keyhole mesh also around my spermadic cord and Inguinal nerve, it is possible that it has shrunk or scar tissue accumulated, and can cause pain when having fun. That explains that!!

Anyway there is my update, Back to you!

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50% chance of less pain.
 
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Slimland considering that 50% chance to get better or worse you are in a coin flip take the chance. Before with me I would have a seizure and do more damage I slipped last night on the ice and landed on my right shoulder yet did no damage to the arm repair. Found out the doc used a kevlar based stich to knit me back together maybe thats why I am not coming back apart YET.
 
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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
Slimland considering that 50% chance to get better or worse you are in a coin flip take the chance. Before with me I would have a seizure and do more damage I slipped last night on the ice and landed on my right shoulder yet did no damage to the arm repair. Found out the doc used a kevlar based stich to knit me back together maybe thats why I am not coming back apart YET.
I have decided to go through the surgery the only problem I have is finacial. My wife is not in the best shape to be working, though bless her heart she tries. So that would leave no income except for child support. I have applied for SSI, that way if I am completly disabled after, then I have something to fall back on. But if not, I know I most likley will be unable to work for a year. If not then no harm I won't need it, and can go to work.
 
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Slim: It seems the chances are 50% of a pain free life, 50% of MORE pain (and drugs) or 100% of the disabling pain you have NOW. (IF all you've told us is accurate.)

Do you see what I'm saying? From what you've told us, your current situation is nearly unbearable. How much worse could it be? You have a 50/50 chance of living a (fairly) normal and well life. I wouldn't even hesitate!

Losing your left buddy is of absolutely NO concern. It is not needed, and only vanity would even consider it in the equation.

As for the nerves, all I know tells me they have a remarkable way of regenerating themselves.... and when we get Dubya out of office..... we'll learn MORE about how to help them along.

But, NOW comes the sermon:

Do you doubt your God? Do you doubt that He can heal you? It doesn't matter to Him that "I" think you sometimes misunderstand him! ( :lol: ) HE understands YOU! When you have the surgery, you are not only trusting the surgeon.... you are trusting God. He may very well just be waiting to find out how much you DO trust him..... BOTH medically AND financially.

Do you understand what I mean when I say that some PROFESS their belief, but do not LIVE it? I'm sure you do. Your sigline says something about "surrender," this is one of those times. YOU cannot control the outcome no matter how much you worry and deliberate. You have said that YOU have decided to have the surgery. Did you ask HIS opinion? I'm pretty sure that you did, and I am not one who likes to hear people say God told me to do this, that or the other....

But when one such as you comes on here and professes your love and faith in your God, I am compelled to "hold your feet to the fire." There are at LEAST two reasons why "faith" healing works. One is that there IS a God who hears your prayers for relief, and the other is that it produces a positive attitude that somehow helps the healing process. Either way YOU WIN..... IF you believe!

The only way you LOSE, is IF it goes badly and you LOSE your faith and acceptance of God's will. You wouldn't DO that.... would you?

I ask you to do THIS for me. Trust that YOUR decision to have the surgery is God's will for you, and do NOT second guess it during this Holiday Season. Accept the PEACE that comes from making the decision, and do not let your worries about the outcome dampen your spirit at this time of celebration.

I cannot say that I KNOW the outcome will be positive. And, I cannot say that God would listen to me if I prayed for you. But, I KNOW you are in my thoughts, and if CARING is anything like PRAYING, I know that all on this board (including me - of course) have cast their vote in this matter!

How you live your life, or live your faith, is YOUR business. But, if you have truly given your life over to Christ, as you say you have, you MUST be faithful in THIS. To do otherwise, is to doubt God.... and ROB him of his glory.... and rightful position in your life.

The TEST of your faith does not come from OTHERS....(or even the events of your life.) It comes from within.

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Old 12-14-2007, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Slim: It seems the chances are 50% of a pain free life, 50% of MORE pain (and drugs) or 100% of the disabling pain you have NOW. (IF all you've told us is accurate.)

Do you see what I'm saying? From what you've told us, your current situation is nearly unbearable. How much worse could it be? You have a 50/50 chance of living a (fairly) normal and well life. I wouldn't even hesitate!

Losing your left buddy is of absolutely NO concern. It is not needed, and only vanity would even consider it in the equation.

As for the nerves, all I know tells me they have a remarkable way of regenerating themselves.... and when we get Dubya out of office..... we'll learn MORE about how to help them along.

But, NOW comes the sermon:

Do you doubt your God? Do you doubt that He can heal you? It doesn't matter to Him that "I" think you sometimes misunderstand him! ( :lol: ) HE understands YOU! When you have the surgery, you are not only trusting the surgeon.... you are trusting God. He may very well just be waiting to find out how much you DO trust him..... BOTH medically AND financially.

Do you understand what I mean when I say that some PROFESS their belief, but do not LIVE it? I'm sure you do. Your sigline says something about "surrender," this is one of those times. YOU cannot control the outcome no matter how much you worry and deliberate. You have said that YOU have decided to have the surgery. Did you ask HIS opinion? I'm pretty sure that you did, and I am not one who likes to hear people say God told me to do this, that or the other....

But when one such as you comes on here and professes your love and faith in your God, I am compelled to "hold your feet to the fire." There are at LEAST two reasons why "faith" healing works. One is that there IS a God who hears your prayers for relief, and the other is that it produces a positive attitude that somehow helps the healing process. Either way YOU WIN..... IF you believe!

The only way you LOSE, is IF it goes badly and you LOSE your faith and acceptance of God's will. You wouldn't DO that.... would you?

I ask you to do THIS for me. Trust that YOUR decision to have the surgery is God's will for you, and do NOT second guess it during this Holiday Season. Accept the PEACE that comes from making the decision, and do not let your worries about the outcome dampen your spirit at this time of celebration.

I cannot say that I KNOW the outcome will be positive. And, I cannot say that God would listen to me if I prayed for you. But, I KNOW you are in my thoughts, and if CARING is anything like PRAYING, I know that all on this board (including me - of course) have cast their vote in this matter!

How you live your life, or live your faith, is YOUR business. But, if you have truly given your life over to Christ, as you say you have, you MUST be faithful in THIS. To do otherwise, is to doubt God.... and ROB him of his glory.... and rightful position in your life.

The TEST of your faith does not come from OTHERS....(or even the events of your life.) It comes from within.

Hobo
Thankyou Hobo.

Though I try to let the Lord live through my life. I am also human and fail many many times.. Thankyou for Grace! As for my left buddy, I will miss him hanging around :lol: , but I won't let my vanity get in the way.. Besides it is not like I need him anymore, don't want anymore kids. But none the less he will be missed.. All the pain he has given me, who needs enemies :lol: .

Hobo thank you for your insight, it is always refreshing to get someone elses out look on things..Exspecialy some one I can debate and discuss with that understands what I am saying. Even though they might not agree. And you always have a way of sparking the spirit, or waking it up you might say.

Thanks Again
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:35 PM
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Who says I don't AGREE with you, Slim??? I am not a "holy roller" who talks about my faith openly, or tells others that it is the ONLY way to live. But, I don't consider myself a heathen!

I have the "advantage" of growing up in a Minister's family. I KNOW the religion. Those who come to the Faith late in life are usually Jesus Freaks. But, occaisionally, I meet someone who is honestly attempting to change his life around. If I can say or do anything to help those who honestly seek and believe, I am honoring the Great Commandment, and THIS is the one I had the most problem with! I REJECT being told I MUST go out and "spread the good news." I always HATED being a Salesman, which is why I'm now driving a TRUCK! But, don't think I wasn't an EXCELLENT salesman! :lol:

But, if I have to SELL Christianity, to earn a berth in Heaven, well..... I may just have to get used to the fire! It is amazing how certain COMMANDMENTS can keep a believer from experiencing the GRACE that he deserves.

Anyway..... YOU just keep believing and trusting. That is the path you have chosen. I'm just here to be your GPS! :lol:

Most importantly, as I said..... you have MADE your decision, now let it REST! Nothing happens until mid January. Meanwhile, there is the Christmas Season to enjoy! And I wish you the very BEST that it has to offer..... family, spirit, love and reverence! And the promise of not only a New Year, but a New Beginning! This is my wish for YOU!

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