Divination?
#11
03-21-2007, 11:21 AM
Originally Posted by Slimland
Originally Posted by Blacksheep
WTF are you even talking about ? :?
The subject is-- If it is against the principals of the Law, why where the Apostle's able to do it, and with God's Blessing?
#12
03-22-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by Blacksheep
Originally Posted by Slimland
Originally Posted by Blacksheep
WTF are you even talking about ? :?
The subject is-- If it is against the principals of the Law, why where the Apostle's able to do it, and with God's Blessing?
I really wasn't expecting a answer, because I so don't care for these nut job type of post's. :roll:
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#13
03-22-2007, 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Mack2
Originally Posted by Slimland
Originally Posted by Blacksheep
WTF are you even talking about ? :?
The subject is-- If it is against the principals of the Law, why where the Apostle's able to do it, and with God's Blessing?
Just a thought mabey it isn't somthing evil but God only wanted certain people to do it.
So why would God, who declares a decree, then backs a few who break it?
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#14
03-22-2007, 05:40 PM
Originally Posted by Slimland
So why would God, who declares a decree, then backs a few who break it?
This is not so much an issue of "Evil Forces" that are supposedly behind Devination as it is a matter of people searching for quick or "easy" answers to what are often complex struggles or problems, and the problems that can be caused by that, or the exploitation of others that can result from false prophets and manipulative people posing as sooth-sayers. I think that Lee Iaccocca summed it up best when he said "I believe that The Lord does us a great favor by only allowing us to see our lives one day at a time." I've certainally found that to be true!! BTW, why did we lose the Spell-Check?? :shock: :evil:
#15
03-22-2007, 11:58 PM
Originally Posted by Slimland
Originally Posted by Mack2
Originally Posted by Slimland
Originally Posted by Blacksheep
WTF are you even talking about ? :?
The subject is-- If it is against the principals of the Law, why where the Apostle's able to do it, and with God's Blessing?
Just a thought mabey it isn't somthing evil but God only wanted certain people to do it.
So why would God, who declares a decree, then backs a few who break it? Mabey they didn't break it being God told them they could do it.
#16
03-23-2007, 01:02 AM
So Fozzy you see no right or wrong in this?
To be able to predict the futur, by Fire scrying, mirror gazing, Tarot Reading, tea leaf reading, crystal ball scrying, Necromacy "asking the dead", etc. To the quackery of the bible (specifically) and all of the mumbo jumbo and superstitious craziness and "fortune telling" that it's "leaders" and followers engage in is just SILLY if you try and say that one is any different or any more wrong than anything else.
The subject is-- If it is against the principals of the Law, why where the Apostle's able to do it, and with God's Blessing?
I can accept that, but for the sake of argument, and I know you can Laughing
What do you think, knowing what you know, about biblical principals concerning this topic? Also does your belief allow such activity? None of these activities are any more or less harmful than any of the mainstream religions activities comparatively.
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#17
03-23-2007, 01:55 AM
Re: Divination?
Originally Posted by Slimland
This is a question that I thought of, concerning Divination of diffrent forms.
Knowing what the Bible say's of divination and the practice of-- is prohibited. The Why are the Apostle's able to cast lots? The reason of this discussion, was because I had a debate with a co-worker on Tarro cards. Now this person was for them, I was against them. "Knowing what they are, because of past exp". But if this person was against them, then just for debate I would have been for them. "I was in the mood" So What do y'all think? Divination is a practice the pagans used to try to contact spirits, etc. They were not believers in the one God and were not trying to accomplish anything that mattered. the apostles were chosen by God and they simply used a method to find out which one God wanted to be added to the fold. I don't believe the apostles were engaged in divination. Divination Yes or No--and a thought or 2!
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#18
03-23-2007, 11:49 AM
Fozzy Said
To the quackery of the bible (specifically) and all of the mumbo jumbo and superstitious craziness and "fortune telling" that it's "leaders" and followers engage in is just SILLY if you try and say that one is any different or any more wrong than anything else.
Is that the same thing your trying to say, or did I misread it? Fozzy said
You again have stumbled into the answer.. However it's the same answer I gave. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
In my opinion the bible to me is the last place that someone would go to learned to be "principled". AND if this is in the bible and "god" accepted it.. who are YOU to question that? You keep this type of un-Christian behavior up.. your not going to make the magical bus ride... Razz
bedside's this topic, I can be the opposit! :lol:
None of these activities are any more or less harmful than any of the mainstream religions activities comparatively.
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#19
03-23-2007, 12:07 PM
My take??
This is not so much an issue of "Evil Forces" that are supposedly behind Devination as it is a matter of people searching for quick or "easy" answers to what are often complex struggles or problems, and the problems that can be caused by that, or the exploitation of others that can result from false prophets and manipulative people posing as sooth-sayers. I think that Lee Iaccocca summed it up best when he said "I believe that The Lord does us a great favor by only allowing us to see our lives one day at a time." I've certainally found that to be true!! BTW, why did we lose the Spell-Check?? :shock: :evil: I understand this, but---The Apostle's where permitted to cast lots, which where controlled by the hand of God. Saul loses his life, for consulting a medium. King Solomon, find's trouble on the in the Kingdome, for his willful acts of Paganism. I just don't see, a diffrence.
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#20
03-23-2007, 12:10 PM
So why would God, who declares a decree, then backs a few who break it?
Could it be that God told him (Saul) not to do it?
Mabey they didn't break it being God told them they could do it. Did not God tell us all not too? Now Old Testament IMOP Declare's Divination as Witch Craft! Leviticus 19:26 ‘You shall not eat anything with the blood, nor shall you practice divination or soothsaying. Deuteronomy 18:9-14 9 “When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the LORD your God has not appointed such for you. So wouldn't this cover the Apostle's also?
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