The Coming Collapse of America as we know it!

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Old 03-12-2007, 08:50 AM
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So tell us again why streamlining the process and corridors for freight and goods in this hemisphere is bad for the economy? Sounds like you are completely anti-progress and think that everything should move via mule train and clipper ships going "round the horn" to get things done. All of Europe is gearing up to make this hemisphere less of an economic monster and people like you are aiding this. Like it or not there is a thing called progress. :roll:
 
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First of all when people began discussing these issues you stated the conspiracy thing. Now you sound like the Globalist that want to push this so called process of Hemispheric Integration down our throats.

I want the United States of America to remain what our founding fathers intended it to be. I think if our government stopped selling out our infrastructures to private business while sending billions to build other countries infrastructures it would help our economy immensely.

Furthermore if we stop funding the Untied Nations, Office of the Americas and all these working groups our deficit and taxes would go down immensely.

Also to help our economic situation we need to stop regulating and taxing business out of America and stop giving businesses incentives and tax breaks to move out of our country.

Another high concern is National Security. We need to keep our ports at our borders and check incoming freight. I do not trust Mexico to do this for our Country.

Your progress is destroying the United States and taxing the Ameican people to death :roll:

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Furthermore if we stop funding the Untied Nations
I like that.
 
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Furthermore if we stop funding the Untied Nations
I like that.
Ron Paul attempted to pass bills doing so almost every year!

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First of all when people began discussing these issues you stated the conspiracy thing.
I started the conspiracy talk? :lol:

Now you sound like the Globalist that want to push this so called process of Hemispheric Integration down our throats.
Nope, I'm pushing nothing. I am rather accepting of technology and things that may aid us in helping other countries being able to support themselves and possibly maybe even ridding this hemisphere of the banana dictatorships.

I want the United States of America to remain what our founding fathers intended it to be.
Really? in what way? This blade cuts both ways. The founding fathers lived in a completely different world in so many ways, the argument is just silly. Should we revert to the times and means of the 1780's?

I think if our government stopped selling out our infrastructures to private business while sending billions to build other countries infrastructures it would help our economy immensely.
Well this is going against the whole premise of the founding fathers point of the discussion. There would be no government anything had they had their way. To privatize and shrink the size and scope of government holdings would be their preferred method.

Furthermore if we stop funding the Untied Nations, Office of the Americas and all these working groups our deficit and taxes would go down immensely.
The UN? Where does this fit into the discussion?

Also to help our economic situation we need to stop regulating and taxing business out of America and stop giving businesses incentives and tax breaks to move out of our country.
So we need no regulations and no taxes? :roll: Should we provide an education too or should all children be self taught by their parents? Madonna and Britney come to mind here...

Your progress is destroying the United States and taxing the Ameican people to death
You're still trying to stuff multiple issues into the discussion.
 
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Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Furthermore if we stop funding the Untied Nations
I like that.
Ron Paul attempted to pass bills doing so almost every year!

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And Ron Paul has his own section on Conspiracy planet...

I'm no big fan of the UN, I think they are about as effective as the League of Nations was. It's a huge money pit and has never been worth anything. I have no idea why people invest any stock in what they say or what they do. Other than bash Israel and aid the genocide of poor people all over the planet, what do they actually do? The only reason to stay is for the veto power that we have there... thats worth something with all the crackpot nations they have allowed in there now
 
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Other than bash Israel and aid the genocide of poor people all over the planet, what do they actually do?
They help keep the writing skills of meter maids and traffic cops all over NYC at an acceptable level.

Just sayin' :wink:
 
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That ought to make the conspiracy wonks happy! Keeping Americans busy.
 
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
I started the conspiracy talk? :lol:
You laughed at people and said how it was all conspiracy talk. Now it is good ole progress
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Now you sound like the Globalist that want to push this so called process of Hemispheric Integration down our throats.
Originally Posted by Fozzy
Nope, I'm pushing nothing. I am rather accepting of technology and things that may aid us in helping other countries being able to support themselves and possibly maybe even ridding this hemisphere of the banana dictatorships.
That is wonderful that you want to put up your OWN money to do this. But when you begin to dictate that the American Taxpayers should work and you take their money to do this that is just wrong.

I want the United States of America to remain what our founding fathers intended it to be.
Originally Posted by Fozzy
Really? in what way? This blade cuts both ways. The founding fathers lived in a completely different world in so many ways, the argument is just silly. Should we revert to the times and means of the 1780's?
Oh I guess our Constituiton is just outdated as well as our Bill of Rights. Time to Usher in Hemispheric Integration and allow the laws and rules of our country to be made by think tanks. HMMM!

I think if our government stopped selling out our infrastructures to private business while sending billions to build other countries infrastructures it would help our economy immensely.
Originally Posted by Fozzy
Well this is going against the whole premise of the founding fathers point of the discussion. There would be no government anything had they had their way. To privatize and shrink the size and scope of government holdings would be their preferred method.
Not when it comes to the free movement of the American Citizens. Roads that the public has paid for and free movement of the people without having to pay tolls to some foreign owned company is exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind.

And Govenment is growing by leaps and bounds with the new framework and the Amercian Tax payers get to pay for it.

Furthermore if we stop funding the Untied Nations, Office of the Americas and all these working groups our deficit and taxes would go down immensely.
Originally Posted by Fozzy
The UN? Where does this fit into the discussion?
I guess you did not link into the the site from the UN regarding the WHTI.
They have EVERYTHING to do with what is happening. Ever hear of the OAS?



Also to help our economic situation we need to stop regulating and taxing business out of America and stop giving businesses incentives and tax breaks to move out of our country.
Originally Posted by Fozzy
So we need no regulations and no taxes? :roll: Should we provide an education too or should all children be self taught by their parents? Madonna and Britney come to mind here...
Nice spin Fozzy. Reread what I posted regarding taxes and regulating business out of the country.

Your progress is destroying the United States and taxing the Ameican people to death

Originally Posted by Fozzy
You're still trying to stuff multiple issues into the discussion.
:roll:

No not at all. Follow NAFTA and the Summit of the Americas and it is ALL interconnected.
 
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You laughed at people and said how it was all conspiracy talk. Now it is good ole progress
I'll bet you practice a lot and patting your head and rubbing you stomach. Yes, I laugh at the ever growing and multi-headed conspiracies hatched in ever growing numbers on a daily basis on this and other websites that I visit. And the progress is only a conspiracy to you...

That is wonderful that you want to put up your OWN money to do this. But when you begin to dictate that the American Taxpayers should work and you take their money to do this that is just wrong.
Well too bad that we cannot just pick and choose every penny of every tax dollar that is collected from us on a daily basis. I support the spending of taxes on the chance that it may improve things.As of yet, you've not proven anything about anything other than you think that we all ought to be living in a log cabin.

Oh I guess our Constituiton is just outdated as well as our Bill of Rights. Time to Usher in Hemispheric Integration and allow the laws and rules of our country to be made by think tanks. HMMM!
Please (without boring us any further with copy and paste drivel) tell me what in this or any of these plans that are directly against either the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. Perhaps you may need to go read one or the other.

I think if our government stopped selling out our infrastructures to private business while sending billions to build other countries infrastructures it would help our economy immensely.
[quote="Fozzy"]

Not when it comes to the free movement of the American Citizens. Roads that the public has paid for and free movement of the people without having to pay tolls to some foreign owned company is exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind.
Please tell me where this covered in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution? You are FREE to take whichever road you wish, if you want to pay the fees, then pay to go onto the private property. Oh, by the way, the Founding Fathers did their share of trade with foreign countries.. if it weren't for some foreign countries, we would never have been able to even become a country.

And Govenment is growing by leaps and bounds with the new framework and the Amercian Tax payers get to pay for it.
Because the American people keep demanding more and more for less and less... if we didnt' want to be owned by other countries, wed be driving small cars and limiting speeds to less that 60 MPH... even with a war on, people still insist that there is no link between what we do and where we are.

I guess you did not link into the the site from the UN regarding the WHTI. They have EVERYTHING to do with what is happening. Ever hear of the OAS?
Ohhhhh.. you mean I'm supposed to read everything that you think is important even though it's complete hogwash and a waste of time. I do not link to anything much because I can convey my own opinions without resorting to using the twittering from other conspiracy wonks.

Nice spin Fozzy. Reread what I posted regarding taxes and regulating business out of the country.
Which businesses? Could it be the overpaid and unrealistic credit based mindset of the American lemming? Please state what you think the founding fathers would have thought of the credit card and able bodied people retiring at 65 to live off the community largess.

Follow NAFTA and the Summit of the Americas and it is ALL interconnected.
And you happen to think that it's all gloom and doom, I think its well about time to start pouring money into this hemisphere rather than the other one. The other hemisphere is a lost cause.
 

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