Wow! I really thought the main point of the film was about the militia and how they and the Continental army fought side by side to obtain the Freedom of this country. I also thought it was about the lives and property that were sacrificed for this country. Therefore giving us our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I thought the name The Patriot should have been a clue to what the films main theme was.

And while the french did show up at the end of the film and one of theirs was waiting and fighting with the Americans, I don't think that was the main point of the film.I am certain that their ancestors were glad we were there to help them also. If this country keeps going the way it is we will not be able to help anyone in the future let alone ourselves.

But that fact has nothing to do with destroying your own country to help/give it away instead of paying down your own deficit or having three countries presidents make initiatives and mandates and having the working agencies follow them. This was not how laws and/or rules were meant to be made in our country.

And I really don't think you want me to post what was done with our flag at Whittier High during the immigration protest.

You still have not given us what you feel your version for betterment of this country would be as of yet.

There are enough Senators and Congressmen that are concerned very concerned about the Hemispheric Integration that is happening. All a person has to do is go in and read the text of the bills. I don't like it and I think I have expressed why I do not care for it.

This will have an impact on all Americans and will also impact the trucking industry as DOT is one of the working groups that is to put these mandates or initiatives in play.

GFIW

 

You sure seem o love to lap up drama,hysteria and propaganda... It's also VERY telling that you conspiracy wonks seem to have all the answers to questions not asked and never answer questions directly asked. You love to try and ask a million pointless questions that are also irrelevant to this discussion. You may need to re-watch the Patriot... without the romantic twaddle that you seem to have been effected with when you watched it last time...

You post drivel from the association that you are so bothered with and act like it means something.. IT DOESN'T! These press releases are all for the consumption of those who attended and for those who are pretending that something is coming from them. This is like some large corporation's meetings where they gather around like squirrels and clap their little paws and get all excited because the picked the type of fountain pen that the executives will use for the next year, then they all eat like pigs, get drunk and chase the hookers all over the hotel.. You are giving far too much credit to these people than is warranted.

 

It is my opinion that those that defend the globalist, open border agenda are motivated by their own burning hate for our country and utter contempt for their neighbors, their families, and ultimately, themselves. Why do these people hate our country?

 

This is what gets you into trouble. How can you accuse someone of hating their country because they have a different mindset than you? I happen to agree with having closed borders, but I also happen to agree that Fozzy presents a valid argument for having open borders. I may not agree with him, but I can respect his stance on the other side of the coin. Truth be told, both of us are self-styled conservatives, with different opinions about a specific thing. But just because he doesn't agree with me, I certainly wouldn't come out and accuse him of hating our country. Once you've done that, you've lost the argument and invalidated any points you wished to make.

:roll:

 

Twilight Flyer,

You can not possibly be serious???? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Fozzy has offered no useful input to this or other similar threads on this board. In fact he has only slung mud and insinuations at Goin Fer It and anyone else that has attempted to express an opinion here that he does not care for. Yet you chastise sweepwing and do nothing with Fozzy who has been more of a disruption than anything else.

Fozzy has used the word "bigotry" and has inferred in the following thread that:

"It's either racial or political bigotry and another thing that a few drivers here are being VERY selective in their "anger"."
http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/...hlight=bigotry

This was a jab at those who are trying to open the eyes of others to what is happening around them. However, in Fozzy's ignorance he hardly understands the meaning of the words bigotry, bigoted and bigot. If he truly understood them then he may just realize that HE HIMSELF IS A BIGOT!

Fozzy, do you understand the meaning of the words bigotry, bigoted and bigot?

If you read the definitions below the main characteristic of a bigot is intolerance to others beliefs and opinions. All through Fozzy's threads he has clearly demonstrated that he is in fact a bigot. He does this by attempting to sway others opinions against those who are simply posting informative posts because he does not agree with the posters. Fozzy clearly demonstrates a lack of tolerance for others opinions.

Who is this Fozzy anyhow? Does he even have a job as he has so much time to interfere with threads?? Is Fozzy such a God that the Moderator himself is afraid to warn him about his bigoted actions??

bigot
noun
1. Someone who is persistently prejudiced, especially about religion or politics, and refuses to tolerate the opinions of others.
Thesaurus: chauvinist, redneck (US slang), dogmatist, partisan, fanatic, extremist; racist, sexist, hater; Antonym: humanitarian, liberal.
Derivative: bigoted
adj
Showing prejudice and intolerance
Thesaurus: biased, prejudiced, chauvinistic, dogmatic, intolerant, closed-minded, narrow-minded, opinionated, prejudiced, intolerant, illiberal; Antonym: enlightened, progressive, open-minded, tolerant.
Derivative: bigotry
noun
. the display of prejudice and intolerance
Thesaurus: intolerance, injustice, bias, discrimination, racism, sexism, sectarianism, jingoism.

tolerate
verb tolerated, tolerating
1. To bear or endure someone or something; to put up with it.
2. To be able to resist the effects of (a drug).
3. To treat fairly and accept (someone with different religious, political, etc beliefs or opinions).
4. To allow to be done or exist.
Thesaurus: allow, permit, consent to, accept, authorize.

 

Here's another problem, I am not nor ever have I been for "open borders". This is more assertive "code speak" to the pointy heads. I'm all for militarizing the borders and for the border fence and for the complete control of the borders (both of them and the ocean fronts). To say however that American can live in the dreamworld of living well beyond their means while blaming others for their troubles is a whole "nother" issue. To pretend that isolationism has worked in the past or will work in the future is complete folly. I am for hemispheric integration to a certain extent because the other hemisphere has shown nothing but disdain and if they keep going the direction that they are going, they will relive their history of needing their whole hemisphere saved by other countries.. they have had all the chances they really are necessary to me and this time when the long knives come out they should have to suffer through it on their own. Hemispheric integration will save millions of American lives and maybe even empower the rest of the hemisphere's people to live a little closer to a higher standard of living in their own country. Selling and buying and creating trade with people in THIS hemisphere is just safer and smarter. Depending on others is not always a weakness and we should try it with those who historically (like old Europe) have weasled their way into cutting our throats to make themselves rich. Hemispheric is a way to circle the wagons and start working at home instead of across oceans... There SHOULD be a super highway from the tip of South America to the North Pole and free trade all the way up and down the damn thing.

 

*snicker*

 

Twilight Flyer,

Thank you for commenting on my post.

My post is a parody of a statement made by Fozzy stating that people resist open borders, amnesty, Mexican trucks, SPP, North American Union, etc, because they are racist. He has made numerous outrageous and baseless accusations that you have deemed to be acceptable. Here are a couple of Fozzy's quotes:

"It's either racial or political bigotry and another thing that a few drivers here are being VERY selective in their "anger"."

"You can spin yourself into the ground trying to defend what your calling information or facts, if you read the whole thread and all the posts, it's all convenience based racism."

You deem baseless accusations of racism acceptable, yet chatise me for applying a well-earned description of someone who is for every initiative that results in a fragmented, weaker, and poorer America as being un-American and filled with hate and contempt for his neighbors.

You, Twilight Flyer, go even further to translate and bring better understanding to the rest of us what Fozzy means in his posts. Please explain to us just what your relationship is to Fozzy. Is he your friend, business partner, financial contributor? I know that this board is a vehicle for professional recruiters. Is Fozzy a Celadon recruiter?

I am not trying to spar with you Twilight Flyer. I post on this site at your discretion. However, Fozzy's seems to enjoy special priviledge to drown out and intimidate decent posters from engaging in a very important discussion regarding Mexican trucks, open borders, North American Union, etc. His seemingly protected status, underhanded language and tactics have effectively reduced the number of responsible posters on these issues and force decent and polite participants away from the discussion.

You have stated on numerous occasions that you don't have the time or desire to police bad behavior. We all understand this. I, for one, am having a difficult time discussing the issues when Fozzy is permitted to launch any baseless, slanderous, crude and vile attack that he chooses. Take my word for it that good and decent people participate in this board and would like to weigh in on the subject but are turned off by the certainty of being personally insulted. Those brave enough to enter the discussion are constantly being baited by Fozzy to behave much worse than they normally would.

We, as participants of this board, should be informed just what your relationship with Fozzy is. To continue to "direct" the conversation with Fozzy as the loudest, foulest and prevailing voice will reduce my interest in CAD. I'm sure that others think the same and will be weighing in.

 

*SNICKER* again. I have no personal dealing with the mods here and have myself been edited for content before and did not cry about it... why can't you people do the same? If you want to run of because of what you feel is unfairness in censorship, I'll not try and stop you... BYE!!!!

 

*sigh*

Some people just don't get it. :roll:

In the first place, I don't know Fozzy from Adam. I don't even agree with everything he posts and he has been asked from time-to-time to lay off when it has been deemed that he's been getting a bit over-the-top. But when that happens, he respectfully backs off instead of resorting to cursing and questioning.

In the course of this thread, one person has been banned for picking fights over and over again and then having the gall to resort to cursing out a mod for even suggesting he refrain from attacking a posters family. That person was on the other side of the argument from you, I might add. Were I to just decide to ban everyone that participated in this argument based on complaint PM's I received, everyone would be gone. Including you.

I have tried to let this discussion go on and tried to maintain a middle-of-the-road stance, as well as dolled out warnings and reminders to keep it civil. Unfortunately, that's not happening and I won't tax any more of my time or another mods time trying to keep up with it. So, it's now locked down and will not be reopened.

A word of advice to all involved. Learn not to take things so seriously.