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Old 04-07-2008, 07:30 AM
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Well, you'll enjoy this. And I think most would agree....
MOST might.... but not me! :lol:

I'm feeling part slave myself, with the prices of everything going up, and the wages going down.
Whose wages went down? Are you talking about J.B. again? I hadn't heard.

I'm not sure what to think about the future....however, I do know this. None of the idiots running for president will have any impact on returning the economy back to better days. If nothing more happens, we will be damn lucky.
I tend to disagree. Of course, I have no crystal ball... like YOU claim to have.... but, I think the Dems WILL return some semblance of fiscal reality to our country. They did it before! The SAD fact is.... in order to do it, they will probably have to RAISE TAXES! Starting at first with the cancellation of the tax breaks for those who never NEEDED them, they MAY have to go even further! I hate it, as YOU do, but it is always left to US to PAY for deficit spending! The bills MUST be paid.... something Dubya doesn't realize! So WE will take the hit once again! But, the result will probably be a balanced budget and maybe even a surplus like Clinton left Dubya!

There is not a fiscal conservative (analyst) in the World who would sanction giving tax breaks to the richest when their country faced a WAR!! And we SEE where giving out corporate welfare has left us..... with jobs going overseas anyways! So much for Free Markets and corporate stimuli! I understand the condemnation from Conservatives to "tax and spend" Democratic policies of the past, but I HOPE that THIS next administration will keep it to what is needed to get us out of this hole! Dubya has grown the government more than any Dem administration in recent years, and NOT paid for it! On top of that?? A WAR that he couldn't and wouldn't fund! What a LOSER! :roll:

I don't want to see higher taxes on ME.... but, I really don't EXPECT to! I certainly didn't see any REDUCTION in my taxes under Dubya! Just MORE debt! :roll:

The bill has GOT to be PAID! What part of that doesn't he understand?

So the Dems will raise taxes a LITTLE bit, to pay down the deficit, and the economy will get STRONGER! Big business will LOSE their tax incentives to move jobs overseas, and will get STRONGER as they provide better paying jobs to Americans who then will have the money to buy their products! This is how the country was founded.... and GREW!

The Middle Class will regain their voice and vote with their dollars. CEO's will go to JAIL for their abusive practices, and America will recover! The population will quit squabbling over RELIGIOUS principles and concentrate on ECONOMIC ones! Terrorism will return to being a "criminal act" instead of a declaration of war, and will be dealt with accordingly. And we will care MORE about those suffering Natural Disasters, and less about political unfortunates in foreign lands! We will once again put Americans FIRST!

However, it's going to get worse. Then you got idiot Mexican labors working for half price....they might as well work for free....
They can do THAT in THEIR country! Perhaps, we can spend some of the Billions of dollars wasted on the Iraqi government to help FORCE the Mexican government to stimulate its own economy!

Somedays, I feel that I do..... :roll:
I never FEEL that way. However, many days I feel that I am working just to support Mexico, Iraq, Africa, Iraq, India, Iraq, Pakistan, Iraq... and, oh did I mention... IRAQ??? :shock: :lol:
 
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Where was this surplus again? To see what the world has gone through in the last 10 years and to pretend that there was anyway to keep this imaginary PROJECTED surplus intact is just not even fair. To pretend that no matter who was in power that the attacks of 9/11, the gear up for the war on terror, the natural disasters and everything else that we have been through and that they could have a surplus and all would be perfect utopia is bordering on sheer madness... or one who is a political koolaide guzzler.
 
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Fozzy that surplus was there the DEbtmeter was going postive when Clinton left office and the Goverment was Buying back Bonds EARLY also. where the money was going first and rightly was the SS trust fund paying that back for all the IOU's that had been taken from it. Bush comes in cuts taxes then puts us into a 2 front GLOBAL War on terror and we loose that surplus and gain ANOTHER 5 Trillion in Debt and see our Military stop lossed for only the Second time in HISTORY the only other time was World War 2 and we could draft as many men as needed then.

Fozzy our Armed forces have been pushed past their breaking point and the only reason is for 2 mens EGO's. Terriorism is an IDEA NOT a man and even after Bush declares Victory guess what some other group will rise up and attack again the only way to win would be PULL ALL OUR TROOPS OUT GLASS THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST STARTING WITH IRAN IRAQ SAUDI ARAIBA AND YEMAN THEN let the rest of the world know you attack us this is what will happen to the nation that supports you regardless of who they are. One Ohio class SSBN could end this right now but Bush will not use it why OIL is why not.
 
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There were no surpluses in fact. The “surplus” was all theory based on a hypothetical set of economic circumstances, that, over a “X” period of time, that would produce, on paper, a surplus. It was all pure BS provided by the Washington politicians to keep themselves in office and the special interests feeding at the government feed trough on your families hard earned dollars.
“Dubya’s” war has been financed mostly by China. Reportedly around $500 Billion worth of US Treasury notes. This must be paid back, with INTEREST! Combine this new “war debt,” with his tax cut, more corporate welfare, and the additional $18 Billion in tax breaks for the oil industry, is now producing huge new deficits. These deficits will eventually have to be paid back. It is possibly the most fiscally irresponsible act in the history of this country. All provided by “Dubya” and Congress. And the congressional Dems and Reps share equal blame. If the upcoming elections go as usual, around 80-90% of the incumbents will be re-elected, so nothing is going to change. But be prepared for a new round of tax increases.
Whoever wins the Presidency will be extremely hand-tied by the incredible new debt of financial obligations left by “Dubya” and Congress. Add in the financial bailout of Wall Street to the tune of a few hundred BILLION and counting, I believe leaves us in a rather precarious position. Especially if China, Dubai, Abu Dabi, (sp) etc., decide to call in their debts.
If anyone remembers the financial collapse of the Soviet government, look closely at the events going on here. And don’t think it cannot happen.
 
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Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006

Fozzy our Armed forces have been pushed past their breaking point and the only reason is for 2 mens EGO's.
That's just almost to stupid to comment on... but I'll just make it short and say that comment is bologna...


Terriorism is an IDEA NOT a man and even after Bush declares Victory guess what some other group will rise up and attack again the only way to win would be PULL ALL OUR TROOPS OUT GLASS THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST STARTING WITH IRAN IRAQ SAUDI ARAIBA AND YEMAN THEN let the rest of the world know you attack us this is what will happen to the nation that supports you regardless of who they are.
That wouldn't work either.

One Ohio class SSBN could end this right now but Bush will not use it why OIL is why not.
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