Boy! You sure wouldn't last long living in Italy, Greece, Israel, ANY Muslim country, or even England! I guess you're damn lucky to live in America! :roll:

But, if that gets too tough, I hear land is cheap in Antarctica! :wink:

 

This golf guy seem to be not to bright. One minute he condemns religion in schools the next he is condemning those that are offended by same.

Another third grade drop out pretending he made it to 7th grade?

Make a decision moron, decide where you stand....

He be funny!

 

I already gave YOU a warning about your attacks on someone. Are you Deaf?
This is your 2nd.

 

Not that you deserve an explanation, Roadkill, but I'll give you one.

Our school system (from which you learned very little,) is STATE supported, or in other words, tax supported. Those who pay taxes have a right to the Constitutional protection that religion will NOT be "endorsed" there.

The same Constitution gives us the right to display, or preach (for that matter) our religious beliefs pretty much anywhere else in public, and certainly on our own land!

If you'd have made it to High School Civics class, you would KNOW this!

My personal beliefs concerning God, are none of YOUR business! However, I fought for the rights of ALL citizens to express their religious beliefs in pretty much any way they want, as long as the taxes of those who don't believe are not being used to do so.

By the same token, I don't believe in taxation without representation. Therefore, if we all pay taxes equally, it is not fair to exclude from our children's educations the KNOWLEDGE of religious beliefs, NOR the SCIENCE of evolution THEORY or health considerations.

Someone once said, "government is messy." There are no easy answers unless you want to disenfranchise everyone who disagrees with you. Civilization is based on compromise.

So, YES.... I can stand up for the rights of Christians in this country, without trampling on the rights of the nonbelievers. I WISH I could say that it took me YEARS of education to come to this point, but the fact is, my Christian father instilled these beliefs in me while I was still but a child.

I don't think YOU want to compare education NOR intelligence with me. You'd get awfully bloody!

I don't worry about YOU 'breathing' MY air.... I worry only about you polluting it!

Hobo

 

Which is why I am looking into home schooling my children... They'll graduate sooner than their peers, get drastically better individualized attention, and get a head start for college. The ONLY negative that I keep hearing for home schooling is the supposed lack of social education. This can be achieved by taking an active interest and role in your child's activities. Get them participating in a sport, a club, or how about a community project? Or helping out at a charitable organization? It is the parent that makes the difference, we as a culture and as a nation must realize that our children look to us, the parents, the adult figures in their lives, for inspiration, direction, and guidance. To the fellow that began this thread, let me offer you a piece of advice friend... You aren't helping your cause by putting down another human being's way of thinking. Just because you disagree with what is said, doesn't necessarily mean that either of you is right or wrong. Opinions vary, everybody has one, and some of us are very loud and confrontational with our thoughts and feelings. I happen to agree with you that religion has no place in public schools, except to be taught about by a non-biased, logical person who understands the concepts of maturity, differing cultures, and that it need only be touched on in order to expose children to the existence of multiple systems of spiritual belief. One single faith shouldn't be endorsed as long as this is a government funded public education. Unfortunately, we live in a country filled with sheep, and when crises do occur, everybody falls back on what is accepted by the majority. I find it interesting that people are afraid to stand up for what they believe in in times of national sarrow. Isn't it interesting that Christians call themselves oppressed and yet they are the most common religion nationwide? Nobody oppresses you for being Christian! People don't bat an eyelash, and are ready and willing to help you or give you a handout. On the other hand if you are any other religion and you don't hide it, be ready for abuse, predjudice, and intolerance of the worst kind. Let me stand up and be the first to say that unless we take a stand, things never change, and in order for change to begin taking place, some people always have to fall. It is the violent and unfortunate history of man kind, but the proof is littered throughout our history, no matter what culture you look at all across the world. We like to call our species civilized, but look around you some time, can you really agree with that way of thinking? Sorry to have gone off on a rant, one subject led to another.

 

I am certainly not against home-schooling, but any child that has parents that spend quality learning and recreational time together, will have a head-start on college (or regular school), whether home-schooled or not.

And even if they go to public school, having parents that are active in their lives, learning and otherwise, will give them that individualized attention.

But, I still haven't figured out why parents would ship their kids off to college early. My 14 year old daughter is a straight A+ student, speaks fairly fluent Spanish and is in a bunch of honor's classes as a freshman next year. She consistently tests in about the 99th percentile in most subjects for state skills tests and she's been through ELP (Extended Learning Programs) several times and is one of those children that would qualify to graduate early or test out of a grade or two. As a matter of fact, we have even been asked that and flat out refused. She is smart as hell and I am proud of her. But I would absolutely never let her skip grades and go to college early.

Why?

Because I don't want my 16 year old daughter in a college setting before she's ready. Oh sure, intellectually, she's there. In classroom settings, she would be fine. But on the outside? She would still be 16, surrounded by people that are 18 to 22. At 16, she would be nowhere near being emotionally ready for that kind of an atmosphere. Hell, it's a stretch to think that most 18 to 20 year olds are ready these days.

Fact is, people argue the social implications of home-schooling and early college for a damn good reason. In MOST cases, it is borderline traumatic for the child. I have an acquaintance that had a daughter head off to college at 16 a few years back. Bright, brilliant, beautiful...she had it all. Within 2 months of being there, she was drunk and gang-raped in a dorm room. Her life was, quite literally, destroyed. Yeah, yeah, I'll hear about that being an isolated instance, but you would be wrong. Things like that happen with more frequency than you think, when dealing with children that are not socially ready for college. Sure, college life is all about being on your own for the first time and bad things can and do happen. But why would you put a 16 year old (or younger) in a situation like that when they simply are NOT ready to handle it.

 

What a jerk. :roll: You and Rosie must be siblings.

 

We just heard of a study that concluded that teaching abstinence doesnt change the age that kids first have sex- basically it doesnt work! Also replacing sex ed with a program that doesnt work is counterproductive and will lead to higher pregnancy and disease rates. Is that what the 'Christocrats ' want?

 

I'am stunned but I find myself in total agreement with Fozzy.

If you want to indoctrinate your kids in a particular religion that's fine..

Just keep it out of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Thank You.

 

Whoa...I take that back...

What's with the christo "CRATS"..

That may give someone the mistaken impression these fanatics are somehow linked to the democratic party.