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What's the difference between the religions?
 
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Perhaps with negotiations and being friendly they could partition the country the way India was partitioned. Then each group would have their own land.



Who are we suppose to negotiate with? Those we are fighting in the war do not want lands nor are they from a particular country. They are from a mindset.. they want to make the world obey Muslim law as they see it. They have stated this quite clearly. So now tell me just how negotiation is suppose to work?
 
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Perhaps with negotiations and being friendly they could partition the country the way India was partitioned. Then each group would have their own land.



Who are we suppose to negotiate with? Those we are fighting int he war do not want lands not are they from a particular country. They are from a mindset.. they want to make the world obey Muslim law as they see it. They have stated this quite clearly. So now tell me just how negotiation is suppose to work?
Hi Bunny, you have a dynamite signature.

Not really. The whole Kashmir thing is about land.

The Kurds would be fine if they had their own land.

I just don't understand the religious groups, the Sunnis and the other ones.

A part of this problem is that Israel was given the Palestinians' land to make up for what Germany did to the Jews. The Palestinians weren't too pleased. And the more we side with the Israelis, the more the people who like the Palestinians feel that we are extremely prejudiced.

It's not a lot different from the problem in Ireland. I lived in London when the IRA was active, and could hear the bombs go off in the West End from my home in Islington. Ireland was economic and religious: Catholic vs. Protestant.
 
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Alright Consider what do you think would happen if we told those countries screw you and were going to blast the crap out of you just because we don't like you?
 
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Originally Posted by Consider
Originally Posted by Bunny


Perhaps with negotiations and being friendly they could partition the country the way India was partitioned. Then each group would have their own land.



Who are we suppose to negotiate with? Those we are fighting int he war do not want lands not are they from a particular country. They are from a mindset.. they want to make the world obey Muslim law as they see it. They have stated this quite clearly. So now tell me just how negotiation is suppose to work?
Hi Bunny, you have a dynamite signature.

Not really. The whole Kashmir thing is about land.

The Kurds would be fine if they had their own land.

I just don't understand the religious groups, the Sunnis and the other ones.

A part of this problem is that Israel was given the Palestinians' land to make up for what Germany did to the Jews. The Palestinians weren't too pleased. And the more we side with the Israelis, the more the people who like the Palestinians feel that we are extremely prejudiced.

It's not a lot different from the problem in Ireland. I lived in London when the IRA was active, and could hear the bombs go off in the West End from my home in Islington. Ireland was economic and religious: Catholic vs. Protestant.
You are talking about three different issues.

The vying for power in Iraq which is not really a war just growing pains at this point. The US went through the same thing.

The Israel issue which come down to Isreael had some land Palestein tried to take it and Israel kick the crap out of them and took some more land.

And the War we are fighting globally with the main theaters in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Which one do you want to discuss further?
 
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Alright Consider what do you think would happen if we told those countries screw you and were going to blast the crap out of you just because we don't like you?
I think that's what happened with Abu Graib and with the murders that have taken place there.

I think those things make them hate us.

I think it makes them want to do to us what we are doing to them.
 
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Perhaps with negotiations and being friendly they could partition the country the way India was partitioned. Then each group would have their own land.



Who are we suppose to negotiate with? Those we are fighting int he war do not want lands not are they from a particular country. They are from a mindset.. they want to make the world obey Muslim law as they see it. They have stated this quite clearly. So now tell me just how negotiation is suppose to work?
Hi Bunny, you have a dynamite signature.

Not really. The whole Kashmir thing is about land.

The Kurds would be fine if they had their own land.

I just don't understand the religious groups, the Sunnis and the other ones.

A part of this problem is that Israel was given the Palestinians' land to make up for what Germany did to the Jews. The Palestinians weren't too pleased. And the more we side with the Israelis, the more the people who like the Palestinians feel that we are extremely prejudiced.

It's not a lot different from the problem in Ireland. I lived in London when the IRA was active, and could hear the bombs go off in the West End from my home in Islington. Ireland was economic and religious: Catholic vs. Protestant.
You are talking about three different issues.

The vying for power in Iraq which is not really a war just growing pains at this point. The US went through the same thing.

The Israel issue which come down to Isreael had some land Palestein tried to take it and Israel kick the crap out of them and took some more land.

And the War we are fighting globally with the main theaters in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Which one do you want to discuss further?
Am I?

Are you repeating the Rice rhetoric?

The Israel issue doesn't come down to Israel having some land Palistinians tried to take and got the crap kicked out of them... not at all.

The land belonged to the Palistinians, they had their families there and were living their lives there for centuries... then along comes Germany and exterminates millions of Jews and the world is pretty horrified, expecially when it finds out the Pope knew and was pretty silent. So after the war the powers get together and give the Jews the land with the Palistinians living on it... Does that seem fair to you?

So recently Israel starts attacking southern Lebanon. They pretend it's because of two soldiers, but several reports say they had it planned long before hand.

Israel wipes out the power plants, causes the most huge oil spill that ruined a large part of the coast, and several other things, and it found that Hezbollah began lobbing rockets pretty far into Israel.

On the last day before the ceasefire more rockets were lobbed in than on any other day.

People who had reserved support for Hezbollah were now massively in support of Hezbollah, after seeing what Israel did.

Most people agree that Hezbollah won. Rice doesn't, but then Rice lied about WMD.
 
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Am I?

Are you repeating the Rice rhetoric?

The Israel issue doesn't come down to Israel having some land Palistinians tried to take and got the crap kicked out of them... not at all.

The land belonged to the Palistinians, they had their families there and were living their lives there for centuries... then along comes Germany and exterminates millions of Jews and the world is pretty horrified, expecially when it finds out the Pope knew and was pretty silent. So after the war the powers get together and give the Jews the land with the Palistinians living on it... Does that seem fair to you?

So recently Israel starts attacking southern Lebanon. They pretend it's because of two soldiers, but several reports say they had it planned long before hand.

Israel wipes out the power plants, causes the most huge oil spill that ruined a large part of the coast, and several other things, and it found that Hezbollah began lobbing rockets pretty far into Israel.

On the last day before the ceasefire more rockets were lobbed in than on any other day.

People who had reserved support for Hezbollah were now massively in support of Hezbollah, after seeing what Israel did.

Most people agree that Hezbollah won. Rice doesn't, but then Rice lied about WMD.
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The land belonged to the Palistinians, they had their families there and were living their lives there for centuries..
Didn't the Brits have controll of the land, Not the palastinians?
So recently Israel starts attacking southern Lebanon. They pretend it's because of two soldiers, but several reports say they had it planned long before hand.


Israel made it no mistry that they felt war was comming, so they prepared, On the other hand, Hezbola dug a hole in the ground all the way to where-ever the heck it was, sounds to me, that Hezbola was the aggressor!!!

Most people agree that Hezbollah won. Rice doesn't, but then Rice lied about WMD.[
Hzbola didn't win, Israel showed massive restraint to lessen the killing of inocents, UNLIKE Hezbola, who launches rockets into the middle of Israely citys. I think Israel should just wipe them off the map!!!!!! That keeps us from having to do it later!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Watch me stir this one up......

They want to kill us.... do you understand that Consider? They hate Christians... they hate the west. They want us dead, plain and simple. Its a religious thing.....
Now when the Little mad from Iran says in public that the USA must fall and the way to make them fall is through oil as it is the life blood of out economy, we have a problem. He and his followers need to die. We have to get them before they get us.
When it comes down to Israel fighting, they WIN. Hands down Israel will kick the living crap out of anyone that wants to play ball. GOD is helping Israel... its his people.

Figured since this discussion is all over the place I would just come in a snipe a religious comment. :lol:
 
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