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Windwalker , 08-24-2006 06:01 AM
01-03-2026Slimland... In which verses of the Bible did you find this????
Just kidding. Actually, I am VERY IMPRESSED.
Just kidding. Actually, I am VERY IMPRESSED.
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WTH, there haven't been even 300,000 people killed in the entire war in Iraq let alone in Fallujah.
You know, and I really mean this in the kindest of ways, it's really hard to have any type of civil discussion with you. If anybody points out a fallacy in your logic or statistics you simply claim brain damage. I don't think anyone on here wants to pick on you for that and we all have great sympathy for you and probably will never fully understand how terrible it must be on you to try to function daily with something so debilitating.
Having said that, if every time someone calls you on something you blame it on brain damage it really isn't a fair debate is it?
You KNOW how hard I'm biting my Lip SCOE-so hard it's bleeding.Originally Posted by Scoe
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Okay, so the thread has a post in it that includes an article by a man I knew. I helped him and his wife buy a home.
He is a very consciencious man, and I'm sure he would not have written what he did without good cause.
So I'm thinking that 300,000 people were killed in Falluja, that the city was effectively wiped out.
Is that what you saw?
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What does that link have to do with ANYTHING? It's a forum talking about Israel and Lebanon and it's just a Forum.
You know what, I have a hard time keeping time straight. I think 04 was when I got tetanus. I really lost track of time then. In bed 24/7. Nasty disease. Wasn't sure I'd make it... doubted it, actually.Originally Posted by yoopr
I was in and around Fallujah in '04What does that link have to do with ANYTHING? It's a forum talking about Israel and Lebanon and it's just a Forum.
Okay, so the thread has a post in it that includes an article by a man I knew. I helped him and his wife buy a home.
He is a very consciencious man, and I'm sure he would not have written what he did without good cause.
So I'm thinking that 300,000 people were killed in Falluja, that the city was effectively wiped out.
Is that what you saw?
WTH, there haven't been even 300,000 people killed in the entire war in Iraq let alone in Fallujah.
You know, and I really mean this in the kindest of ways, it's really hard to have any type of civil discussion with you. If anybody points out a fallacy in your logic or statistics you simply claim brain damage. I don't think anyone on here wants to pick on you for that and we all have great sympathy for you and probably will never fully understand how terrible it must be on you to try to function daily with something so debilitating.
Having said that, if every time someone calls you on something you blame it on brain damage it really isn't a fair debate is it?
IF we wiped out 300,000 in Fallujah that means we pretty much wiped out the Entire Population cuz it only has 350,000 people. :roll:
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IF we wiped out 300,000 in Fallujah that means we pretty much wiped out the Entire Population cuz it only has 350,000 people. :roll:
Yes, that's exactly the point. I understood there were 400,000 to start, and about 100,000 survived.Originally Posted by yoopr
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WTH, there haven't been even 300,000 people killed in the entire war in Iraq let alone in Fallujah.
You know, and I really mean this in the kindest of ways, it's really hard to have any type of civil discussion with you. If anybody points out a fallacy in your logic or statistics you simply claim brain damage. I don't think anyone on here wants to pick on you for that and we all have great sympathy for you and probably will never fully understand how terrible it must be on you to try to function daily with something so debilitating.
Having said that, if every time someone calls you on something you blame it on brain damage it really isn't a fair debate is it?
You KNOW how hard I'm biting my Lip SCOE-so hard it's bleeding.Originally Posted by Scoe
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Okay, so the thread has a post in it that includes an article by a man I knew. I helped him and his wife buy a home.
He is a very consciencious man, and I'm sure he would not have written what he did without good cause.
So I'm thinking that 300,000 people were killed in Falluja, that the city was effectively wiped out.
Is that what you saw?
Originally Posted by Consider
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What does that link have to do with ANYTHING? It's a forum talking about Israel and Lebanon and it's just a Forum.
You know what, I have a hard time keeping time straight. I think 04 was when I got tetanus. I really lost track of time then. In bed 24/7. Nasty disease. Wasn't sure I'd make it... doubted it, actually.Originally Posted by yoopr
I was in and around Fallujah in '04What does that link have to do with ANYTHING? It's a forum talking about Israel and Lebanon and it's just a Forum.
Okay, so the thread has a post in it that includes an article by a man I knew. I helped him and his wife buy a home.
He is a very consciencious man, and I'm sure he would not have written what he did without good cause.
So I'm thinking that 300,000 people were killed in Falluja, that the city was effectively wiped out.
Is that what you saw?
WTH, there haven't been even 300,000 people killed in the entire war in Iraq let alone in Fallujah.
You know, and I really mean this in the kindest of ways, it's really hard to have any type of civil discussion with you. If anybody points out a fallacy in your logic or statistics you simply claim brain damage. I don't think anyone on here wants to pick on you for that and we all have great sympathy for you and probably will never fully understand how terrible it must be on you to try to function daily with something so debilitating.
Having said that, if every time someone calls you on something you blame it on brain damage it really isn't a fair debate is it?
IF we wiped out 300,000 in Fallujah that means we pretty much wiped out the Entire Population cuz it only has 350,000 people. :roll:
That's why I wanted to know what you had seen. I forget the date it was supposed to have been carried out. It's apparently reported on the Amy Goodwin site.
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Wow, Slimland, wow.
Very impressive.
Do you mind if I take it back to pbs and post it there?
Thank you.
In defense of how I feel about the British in their empire,
... did you ever see Ghandi?
Very impressive.
Do you mind if I take it back to pbs and post it there?
Thank you.
In defense of how I feel about the British in their empire,
... did you ever see Ghandi?
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You know, and I really mean this in the kindest of ways, it's really hard to have any type of civil discussion with you. If anybody points out a fallacy in your logic or statistics you simply claim brain damage. I don't think anyone on here wants to pick on you for that and we all have great sympathy for you and probably will never fully understand how terrible it must be on you to try to function daily with something so debilitating.
Having said that, if every time someone calls you on something you blame it on brain damage it really isn't a fair debate is it?
Hi Scoe, Originally Posted by Scoe
WTH, there haven't been even 300,000 people killed in the entire war in Iraq let alone in Fallujah.You know, and I really mean this in the kindest of ways, it's really hard to have any type of civil discussion with you. If anybody points out a fallacy in your logic or statistics you simply claim brain damage. I don't think anyone on here wants to pick on you for that and we all have great sympathy for you and probably will never fully understand how terrible it must be on you to try to function daily with something so debilitating.
Having said that, if every time someone calls you on something you blame it on brain damage it really isn't a fair debate is it?
Because the best thing I had going for me was my mind, it's not so fun to have lost so much of my working memory and processing speed.
If I don't try to do anything new, and there's no stress, and I'm able to work slowly, I hardly am aware of the damage. It's when I really need my mind to work properly, because things are extremely serious, like with losing my condo, that it works least well.
But thank you for thinking about it in a sympathetic way.
Okay, that said, where did I not answer a question or reply to being called on a statistic by saying I have brain damage? could you quote it for me? I didn't know I had done that. I didn't mean to.
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Windwalker , 08-24-2006 07:58 AM
And the mis-information spreads faster and farther than the truth, and that's what most people get to hear and believe. I was never there, but there was NOWHERE that I ever heard a figure of 300,000 dead there.
We are not there to kill people. We are there to let them know what it is like to live without fear. You don't do that by killing them.
We are not there to kill people. We are there to let them know what it is like to live without fear. You don't do that by killing them.
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We are not there to kill people. We are there to let them know what it is like to live without fear. You don't do that by killing them.
perhaps, and perhaps not.Originally Posted by Windwalker
And the mis-information spreads faster and farther than the truth, and that's what most people get to hear and believe. I was never there, but there was NOWHERE that I ever heard a figure of 300,000 dead there. We are not there to kill people. We are there to let them know what it is like to live without fear. You don't do that by killing them.
Think about how much WMD propaganda was dissemenated prior to the war. A lot. Even Colin Powell was in on the act, and it was all lies.
This is what I posted in reply to the pbs thread that was talking about all those killed in Falluja:
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This is what I found at DemocracyNow:
Right?
But what people responded was that the "displaced" did not account for all 400,000 who were there to start...Originally Posted by for
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I expect a lot of our soldiers have very bad nightmares.
Okay, i'm confused.Originally Posted by Judy___
They didn't allow any journalists to post pictures of the victims. What the Israelis are doing is childsplay by comparison. I imagine some of the people were able to escape but the orders were to kill anything that moves. I expect a lot of our soldiers have very bad nightmares.
This is what I found at DemocracyNow:
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Ali Fadhil is perhaps best known for his documentary film on the aftermath of the US siege on Falluja in November, 2004. In the assault, American and Iraqi forces surrounded Fallujah, expelling the city?s residents, bombing hospitals and shelling buildings. We broadcast excerpts of the documentary, produced last year by Guardian Films for Channel Four News. [includes rush transcript]
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Whole neighborhoods were attacked and relief workers were denied access. When the dust had settled, 10,000 buildings were destroyed with thousands more seriously damaged. At least 100,000 residents were permanently displaced and over 70 U.S. soldiers were killed. The Iraqi death toll remains unknown, but is well into the hundreds.
Ali Fadhil compiled the first independent reports from the devastated city, where he found scores of unburied corpses, rabid dogs and an embittered population. In a Democracy Now! U.S. exclusive, we air an excerpt of the documentary. It was produced last year by Guardian Films for Channel Four News, it's called "Fallujah - The Real Story."
It says the residents were displaced. Ali Fadhil is perhaps best known for his documentary film on the aftermath of the US siege on Falluja in November, 2004. In the assault, American and Iraqi forces surrounded Fallujah, expelling the city?s residents, bombing hospitals and shelling buildings. We broadcast excerpts of the documentary, produced last year by Guardian Films for Channel Four News. [includes rush transcript]
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Whole neighborhoods were attacked and relief workers were denied access. When the dust had settled, 10,000 buildings were destroyed with thousands more seriously damaged. At least 100,000 residents were permanently displaced and over 70 U.S. soldiers were killed. The Iraqi death toll remains unknown, but is well into the hundreds.
Ali Fadhil compiled the first independent reports from the devastated city, where he found scores of unburied corpses, rabid dogs and an embittered population. In a Democracy Now! U.S. exclusive, we air an excerpt of the documentary. It was produced last year by Guardian Films for Channel Four News, it's called "Fallujah - The Real Story."
Right?
I guess my question (What happened in Falluja?) is amplified by how the government wouldn't let there be any pictures of the coffins coming home from Iraq... News control, censorship. I have to wonder how far it extends.
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Just kidding. Actually, I am VERY IMPRESSED.
Originally Posted by Windwalker
Slimland... In which verses of the Bible did you find this????Just kidding. Actually, I am VERY IMPRESSED.
If I remember right, there was a Jew who helped the British make Dinomite faster, therfor that helped them with the WW1, and in return he asked for there land back. I think his name was Cham or something.
So they got it back!
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I don't car its not mine anyway, it is in the encyclopedias.Quote:
Very impressive.
Do you mind if I take it back to pbs and post it there?
Thank you.
In defense of how I feel about the British in their empire,
... did you ever see Ghandi?
Originally Posted by Consider
Wow, Slimland, wow.Very impressive.
Do you mind if I take it back to pbs and post it there?
Thank you.
In defense of how I feel about the British in their empire,
... did you ever see Ghandi?
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Fallujah Never had a population of 400,000
Good Grief-quit spouting off your junk about things you only read about in the Blogs. Spread it someplace else.
This is from my Leftist Congressman after ragging on him for over a Year.
This is Just ONE example out of HUNDREDS with more to come
I think you ought to go back to your Doctor and quit playing your Naive little game on a Trucking Forum.
Good Grief-quit spouting off your junk about things you only read about in the Blogs. Spread it someplace else.
This is from my Leftist Congressman after ragging on him for over a Year.
This is Just ONE example out of HUNDREDS with more to come
I think you ought to go back to your Doctor and quit playing your Naive little game on a Trucking Forum.
