:lol: :lol: Amen

and I agree need a Spiritual section!

And hello Rev-- I have noticed on this site, you don't engage as much on relegious subjects, as on the other.

 

And it is for the simple reason that there isn't a forum devoted to it. I, for one, would love to have one over here, where the "sound byte" crew from Trucknet doesn't reside (I'm sure you know who I am talking about, Slimland) :wink:

Cmon mods - what do you say?

 

I guess I deserve that. :lol:


Not exactly. The only reason why someone does not obey God's commandments is because the things he wants to do that are against the commandments are more important to him. In other words if a person wants to keep God's commandments, he would. The only thing stopping him is himself.

People cannot obey the commandments to attain eternal life because everyone has already acheived damnation as a result of their works. I believe that most people who attempt to earn salvation by works end up resenting God and the commandments anyway because they resent denying their desires. Some people who teach salvation by works adopt the belief that weighted scales will decide who will go to heaven. That is if a person does more right than wrong, he will get into heaven. Are people who do as their employer asks 45% of the time considered good employees by their employer.

A person must be born again. Being born again means to repent and agree with God that living for oneself is wrong. He now begins to live to serve God. The person who was born again grows to hate the things that he used to do that are against the law of God where the person who attempts to acheive salvation by works does not.

If anyone needs clarification, don't worry, I'll reply in 3 to 6 months.
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Ok ChapChap, Now my little brain understood you :lol:

And I agree, with you understanding!

I just don't understand why I didn't understand you the first time.

 

I have had some one on this board PM me on some questions, I will soon post some things on this thread, for I am sure it will be debated, and this person can see 2 or 3 diffrent out looks on the subjects. This hopefully will be done tommorow morning. You all know, that when it comes to a subject I am fair, and like to let others see and think for themselves. So after I post these subjects, I invite all of you to join in a Real Discussion on the issue's.
And Yes Fozzy you are invited, I havn't talked to you in so long it would be an Honor..

Thanks
Slimland

 

Ok, it is morning for me :lol:

Paraphrased {Come out of her My children and do not pertake in her plagues, for in one hour her judment has come}

I want to look at this, as pertaining to churches today. I see a big defecting from the truth of God, for the traditions and understanding of man. The churches {not all, but the majority}Have left the Truth of God for the lies of man. Thier niether hot nor cold.

God loves us, and we are to love in return.. IMOP the churches strive for the fuzzy feel good, and the financial gain.

God sent His Son to die for our transgression of His Law, and then gave us New Life in believing and trusting in His Son, to be God of our lives. It is to be Gods Will not ours.

And this is not new, for in times past. Self protest Christian's, and churches, and religion of man. Have killed in the name of God, to the point of killing off their own.

The days hear and comming are dark and evil, we as believer's are to love our enimies, in hope of thier redeemtion. We are to seek God's guidance, and let Him be Lord of our live's. The Holy Spirit should teach you, Not man. and through man, God can get somebody on the right track.
Once I came to Christ, I no longer let man teach me, but relied on the Holy Spirit of God. He gave me discernment to know Truth.. If it doesn't match the Word, then it is false. If someone tells me something, I look it up for myself.

Do we have to go to church to be saved? No, but we are not to pull away from the gathering of believers. A prayer meeting or bible study is suffecient, that is church.

This was brought to my attention, and above is just a beginning of a thought. Below is the issue at hand...



And then there is this one....



Ok, to everyone who is invited {which is everyone} lets throw some things on the table, and give our opinions and thoughts.

 

Hmm, I havn't brought these type of topics in a while, and pretty much stayed away. What are y'all rusty? :lol:

I find it amazing that my brothers and sister's in Christ, have not come to help this person, with these issue's..

Get out of your stuppor, and tell the Good News, That my friend's according to what Jesus said, is the Will of God!!

 

Hi Slim,

For the person you are posting about, the scripture that follows comes into mind first:

Matthew 23:8-10 (KJV)
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. [9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. [10] Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

If I remember correctly, the New American Standard Version says "do not be called "teacher", your teacher is Christ and you are all brothers...

No one; not the Pope, the leader of a religion/denomination, or any so called Pastor-Teacher can make something true by declaration if it is false. Does the truth deny itself? Many people are filled with self importance so they do and say things not to serve God with humility; but so they can build for themselves a reputation and get the perks that come with it. Jesus condemned the religious leaders of his day for this. I believe Solomon said in Ezekiel "there is nothing new under the sun".

It is sad that many churches try to make the Bible fit their agenda. I think the best way to ascertain "who is right" is with humility. Don't proud people suppress the truth in order to keep themselves puffed up? What are these churches we refer to filled with?


1 Peter 5:5 (KJV)
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.


Isn't the Master or Teacher the truth? Is false knowledge knowledge at all?

 

Churches?..the Pope?.... :lol: :lol: :lol: What a crock of crap. Most churches and certainly the pope are nothing more than mere figureheads for their own gain.

 

Good response Chapchap==

If I may add to this---

There are needs for a teacher and a preacher.. otherwise God wouldn't have given the gifts of them two.

I think man has like you said fit it for thier gain. But IMOP they are for spreading the good news, to make a foundation and set up the elementry principals for God.. Then some one may come along and water it, but all in all God gives the increase..
In a setting like a church, this is talked about also I believe in Timothy and Phillipians.. Have you ever noticed the requerments for these positions?
I cannot fill those requerments and most people I know cannot..

In order to be above like you said you have to be below, humbled..

But when it comes to the Word of God, what better way to understand it, than let the person who inspired man to write it, tell you what it means.. And yes sometimes we get help from other believers..