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#41
03-18-2006, 06:39 PM
The problem i have with people who preach the gospel is the fact that most apply biblical wisdom portraying themselves as "self-righteous".
I don't mind hearing the word of God, but some people appear to talk down to you forcing their beliefs on you. I hate that s*** with a passion. That's why many unbelievers turn away from God to begin with. I hate it when people come up to me askin' me "Do you know where you are goin' if you were to die today." I get offended cuz this person assumes that i'm not a believer. I'd be more inclined to "hearing" someone if instead they said,"Do you know Jesus Christ". Now that's more like it. Not all, but most christians i've encountered are flat out imbecile's! They know more about God than God knows about Himself. There is no bigger detriment to christianity than a believer caught in the ramblings of scripture leading an ungodly life.
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#42
03-19-2006, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Slimland
............... I teach the Word of God, that is in the Bible..............
-A religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof -A blind belief in things often without a material base. -A belief or set of beliefs that a religion, political, philosophical, or moral group holds to be unquestionably true Everything you write appears to follow the above "rules". There is nothing in your writting that is divergent in any way. A defenition of Divergent thinking. -Thinking of many possibilities. There is no one "right" answer to be found. -Thinking that moves away in diverging directions so as to involve a variety of aspects and which sometimes lead to novel ideas and solutions; associated with creativity. It could follow that if your thinking it is not divergent then it is probably dogmatic. And lets not forget something. Even Jesus was not a teacher, he was a preacher.
#44
03-19-2006, 03:30 AM
Those preaching any religious "doctrine" from any book are only separated by the names in which the call their gods. The results are ALWAYS the same, never any god or divinity or peaceful resolutions, only human's bringing death, destruction, and human suffering to those who they have been de-humanizing using their religious text and then the aftermath where the slap each other on the back trying to convince themselves that they are doing "gods" work ad will reap some great reward in the "afterlife". Religious Armies have no humanity. They think they operate on a level above needing it!
A few centuries ago, it was the Christians, Now its the Muslims,, there STILL is no difference. The Christians were all fine and good when they where dishing it out... now it seems that they feel that its unfair that another BIGGER and more powerful religion is subjecting them to their version of religious intolerance. If you're not part of the solution, your part of the problem. "Orginized" Religion is still the worst blight on the face of the planet. There IS nothing in any religious text that can disprove that fact.
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#45
03-19-2006, 04:11 AM
Fozzy, could not agree with you more. Religion is and will be the downfall of man...I know we have had our differences but that does not mean I dislike you...just dislike some of your comments but that only means I should have a much more open mind because you have shown that you do.....anyway, have a good one and looking forward to the next debate.
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#46
03-19-2006, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bulldog2036
......... Religion is and will be the downfall of man.................
Religion will just be one of the tools that we use to do it. It is like the carpenter that says the fingers of his left hand where cut off by the skill saw. That is not correct. It was his right hand that cut off the fingers of his left hand. He just used a skill saw to do it.
#47
03-19-2006, 06:33 AM
Correct, amd it was too late to start worrying about it once the blade hit the meat. It doesn't really matter what type of saw does the cutting.
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#48
03-19-2006, 09:34 AM
Originally Posted by RockyMtnProDriver
The downfall of Man, will be man.
I think someone else said it this way..... We have seen the enemy, and they are us!
#49
03-19-2006, 10:00 AM
Originally Posted by Redeemed
Originally Posted by RockyMtnProDriver
The downfall of Man, will be man.
I think someone else said it this way..... We have seen the enemy, and they are us! "Our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against principalitys and rulers in dark places" And they are in Religion. And religion is got to be one of Satans most powerful tools. As in the beginning he changes, and twist the Words of God to match his benifit. In the end it will be the same, A one world Government, and a one world Religion. Prey on the hearts and mind of man, blind them so they can't see the truth, fill there hearts with Idiolotry, and therfor shy a way from God, because there consciouse is seared, and they think there isn't a God, or they are not wanted.
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#50
03-19-2006, 10:10 AM
Originally Posted by RockyMtnProDriver
Originally Posted by Slimland
............... I teach the Word of God, that is in the Bible..............
Some of the definitions of the word Dogma.
-A religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof -A blind belief in things often without a material base. -A belief or set of beliefs that a religion, political, philosophical, or moral group holds to be unquestionably true Everything you write appears to follow t". he above "rules A defenition of Divergent thinking. -Thinking of many possibilities. There is no one "right" answer to be found. -Thinking that moves away in diverging directions so as to involve a variety of aspects and which sometimes lead to novel ideas and solutions; associated with creativity. It could follow that if your thinking it is not divergent then it is probably dogmatic. And lets not forget something. Even Jesus was not a teacher, he was a preacher. Some of the definitions of the word Dogma. -A religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof -A blind belief in things often without a material base. -A belief or set of beliefs that a religion, political, philosophical, or moral group holds to be unquestionably true Everything you write appears to follow t". he above "rules The Words that I repeat are Truth, they have proof, and the proof is the Word of God, which Testifies of Itself. Not to mention the Prophecys for they are a testimony of Jesus Christ. "You kinda remind me of the Pharasees, thus History repeats itself" A blind beliefe in things often without a material basis. Gods creation is evedence enough, and that is a material basis. I do not put nothing in Religion, Just what God says in His Word. Everything you write apears to follow the Above . No it don't. -Thinking of many possibilities. There is no one "right" answer to be found. -Thinking that moves away in diverging directions so as to involve a variety of aspects and which sometimes lead to novel ideas and solutions; associated with creativity. It could follow that if your thinking it is not divergent then it is probably dogmatic. We have disussed many a possibilitys Rock, I have indulged your thought's on big bang, and evolution. So therfore I do fit in you divergency.
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