No offense from my side Kamahri114, I too was your age, and I remember that time like it was yesterday. I don't know what else to say to you, than hopefuly things will change.

 

i just don't know who to believe! its so confusing.

 

kimahri, GOD does not want you where?...and do you really believe HE picks and chooses who gets help?....life is life, we make it what it is and by blaming GOD for our misfortunes and praising HIM only when something good happens is just pure hypocrisy...as you mature you will see more clarity in your life...God Bless and Peace to you....bd

 

thanks bd, cause i think i am gonna need al the help i can get.

 

kimahri, I don't think you offended anyone. I for one have been plenty mad enough to think and say things very much like you are now. I did it when I was 15 because I grew up in the original house of horors. Trust me, when you look up dysfunctional in the dictionary there is a picture of the family I grew up in. But I still do it now sometimes at 37 and a believer in Christ. God knows we get angry at Him and He understands. I have yelled at him more than once.

Hang in there kimahri. From what you have posted in the past you clearly have some reasons to doubt God. But you got a good head on your shoulders. You got a plan for what you want to do with your life and you are clearly smart enough to do it. As far as God goes you got some questions. Go seek out some answers. God is very much our spiritual parent and He does some things that regular parents do. And just like even the best earthly parents sometimes He will give us what need instead of what we want. When we get what we need instead of what we want we sometimes mistake that for not getting anything.

don't give up.

 

My advice is to quit waiting and expecting help from anyone especially some thing from the "great provider". Be the captain of your own ship and stop waiting on others or expecting others to complete you.

 

well, for your info fozzy, i am only 15. i want to take controll of my own life, but i cant. thats thanks to this government that we have. i feel that i have enough responsibility to take care of my self, but i gotta wait. so what exactly do you mean fozzy? this tears me up so bad!

 

Back to predestination...

Here's my two cents. I think that IF you believe in a deity that is omnipotent and omniscient, THEN you must believe in predestiny. Here's why: If God can do anything He wants, then that means he made everything exactly the way He wants it. He didn't make any mistakes. Since He is omniscient, He knew exactly how everything would turn out, and he chose to make the world exactly the way He did. If He didn't like some result that He KNEW would occur, He could have altered His original design, and got a different result.

This of course means that if the conventional view of christianity is true, God knew that certain people would end up in hell, and He went ahead and made them anyway. Since He can do anything, He could have made a universe without suffering and without eternal torment, but He chose not to. He designed everything vile and evil and unjust, as well as everything good. He must have wanted all these screwed up things to happen, and He must have wanted souls to burn in hell forever. Hell, He knew that Satan was going to rebel and get thrown out of heaven and be an all-around bad guy, but He went ahead and made Himself and arch-nemesis.

Of course, if God were benevolent, then he wouldn't create eternal, inescapable suffering, or beings that deserve it. So if God exists, then he is either not benevolent, not omniscent, or not quite omnipotent. I favor the last one, since he was tired after creating the universe. The fact that he needed to rest for a day implies that there is a limit to his ability. I think God screwed up.

This all assumes that there really is a God that is something like the one described in the bible. So far I haven't found a way to detect one.

 

thank you for helping me with my problem sir. really considerate of you. thanks.
*note that the above was complete and udder sarcasm*

 

This was very interesting, Though I do not support the Idea of the NOT's, He does tell us in the bible "Isaiah ch 45 vrs7" that He created Good and Evil.

The thing about Him resting, it was for man. The day of rest. for the Jews could not inter into His rest, because of unbeliefe. The rest of God was to remind us of God.


None the less this was very interesting and thought provoking.


Why is there gates surrounding heaven's new jerusalem, and Angels gaurding those gate's?

Hmmmm.