Has anyone found an honest male driver out there?
#321
04-24-2008, 03:09 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
The Rev said:
Which brings me back to my point that if that is how you believe everyone is, then that is all you will see, regardless of what the truth is. The key is realizing that everyone isn't the same, and learning to move beyond those stereotypes caused by past trauma.
As I said I wasn't calling anyone in particular a bully. My point to Roses was, if you feel bullied, just ignore it. Rev often comes off as a 'bully" because of his extreme bluntness. Trust me, I understand that! :twisted: For4Roses sees men (apparently) through HER "rose colored glasses." And ALL of us see others through the LENS of our "experiences." The Rev is only pointing this out. I KNOW things are a bit "slow" on the other forums right now, but I've NEVER known the Rev to come to this forum JUST to stir up trouble. He is a man of VERY few words.... mostly confrontational.... but ALWAYS designed to make one THINK! He won't like me saying this but..... he does have a 'soft' side! He showed it in his HONEST response to the question of this thread. In fact.... I believe that the vast majority of the men who post throughout this website are intelligent and compassionate men! And by shear statistics, this cannot be an anomaly! The obvious inference is, that there are Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of REAL "honest" men out there! If you haven't FOUND one yet... perhaps you (women in general) need to get new GLASSES! :roll: :lol: Now..... if I could JUST find an "HONEST" woman out there somewhere!?? :wink: You probably already have but she had a fat a$$! :twisted:
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln
#322
04-24-2008, 04:08 AM
Originally Posted by RebelDarlin
Rev often comes off as a 'bully" because of his extreme bluntness. Trust me, I understand that! :twisted:
Many of those who have come to understand that this is how I am have found me to be a really good friend. Some of those same people end up regretting it, because I will always tell them when I disagree with what they are doing, and why I disagree with it. That attitude has put a strain on some of my friendships as of late (with certain members of this very message board). I will, however, never apologize for believing what I believe, because there is always a reason why I believe it. I'm really not a bad guy. I just play one on the internet. :wink:
#323
04-24-2008, 04:13 AM
I guess there is such a thing as "too honest".
Men are not real good at "compartmentalizing." We sometimes don't know when "honest" is NOT what you (women) want to hear! In fact, we've been "taught" to tell you what you WANT to hear! And.... WHO taught us that? :shock: :roll: Furthermore, after being taught THAT all our lives, we are disarmed when we meet a truly HONEST woman.... one who can accept the truth! That picture you posted ( I think it was you ) of the man with his belly faling out from under his T-shirt.... that struck me as a dichotomy! I see SO MANY WOMEN these days that look like that! WTF???? Don't you CARE about the way you look anymore? Do you think I'm gonna accept that? Not unless I'M 200 lbs overweight and have NO OTHER options! :roll: [And I believe that standard should apply both ways!] I CANNOT change the "social" or "biological" FACT that MEN are "visual" and women are "mental." I go BACK to previous posts where I stated that women will (and should) consider a man's intellect and/or physical attributes when choosing a mate (for the socialization of the species) and MEN are disposed to consider the sexual attractiveness of a female for the SAME! I didn't make the rules! Email your objections to Darwin!! But, in today's world, it is almost impossible for a man, who is evolved, to find a woman with an intellectually provocative MIND, who hasn't let her BODY fall into sexual decay! It's as if Women's LIB gave you a license to get FAT! There are STILL "unevolved" men out there who will pay sexual tribute to anything that BREATHES! But, they have the HONESTY level of a RABBIT! But, if you want one that RESPECTS you, you need to understand the complex relationship between sexual neccessity and intellectual honesty! In short, an "evolved" man, needs BOTH sexual "visual" attraction, AND intellectual companionship! There..... THAT'S the truth..... (as I understand it.) And again.... I believe THAT standard applies BOTH ways! If you want to be TREATED like a princess, you need to LOOK like one! That is the fairly tale WE were taught! If you want a PRINCE CHARMING to come rescue you, you need to realize that beneath that armour, he may not have "ripped abs!" But, he will have courage, strength and a committment to purpose. The biggest LIE propogated on the female population today, is that "we are all beautiful INSIDE!" Bullchit! MEN don't get to KNOW you "inside" until they've been attracted to your OUTSIDE! That is truth..... that is honesty! And when SOME find this out, they turn instead to WOMEN for that "acceptance" because it is EASIER than situps! Others will find men who want only ONE thing.... and don't CARE how it's wrapeed! Is that enough honesty for you? Again..... I did NOT make the RULES!! I am telling you what I know to be the honest truth. If a woman does not maintain an overall appearance of attractiveness, she will attract "dishonest" men who will tell her anything to get what they want.... because THEY are the type of man who wants only ONE thing! An HONEST man, who has ANY pride, will look for a "farily" attractive woman, and THEN...... will attempt to get to KNOW her if he is looking for more than a "roll in the Peterbuilt Bunk!" This is not rocket science, people! If your "possible" mate for the night... or a lifetime.... doesn't ask questions about WHO you are, and WHAT you believe..... he/she is "honestly" only looking for a quickie! But, in failing to do so, they have "honestly" imparted their intentions. After 20 minutes or so of this, it is up to YOU to decide what happens next.... and what happens next is dependant on YOUR "honesty." YOU women are STILL in control..... but you attract the type of men you DESERVE! If you don't CARE about yourselves, why should HE? On the other hand.... if you LOOK like a Playboy Bunny, your task is harder. You will attract EVERY man, and YOU must determine which ones are attracted by your MIND! For the few who actually LOOK like this, and CARE..... That will be in chapter 13, and the price is now $31.95 :lol: :lol:
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#324
04-24-2008, 04:30 AM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by RebelDarlin
Rev often comes off as a 'bully" because of his extreme bluntness. Trust me, I understand that! :twisted:
Many of those who have come to understand that this is how I am have found me to be a really good friend. Some of those same people end up regretting it, because I will always tell them when I disagree with what they are doing, and why I disagree with it. That attitude has put a strain on some of my friendships as of late (with certain members of this very message board). I will, however, never apologize for believing what I believe, because there is always a reason why I believe it. I'm really not a bad guy. I just play one on the internet. :wink: Like I said, I understand. I've always been told that I am too blunt. And my few close friends, appreciate that about me (most of the time). They may not always like what I say, but they usually know that I'm being honest about it. My family on the other hand, has never understood that. they just think I'm "a cold hearted beyotch". Whatever! At least on here I can edit myself sometimes. :wink:
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln
#325
04-24-2008, 04:48 AM
REB said:
At least on here I can edit myself sometimes.
But, I wnet to your myspace page, and I "believe" that is the real you. I saw it once on here (for about 10 hours) and I like it! Now.... how fat IS that azz? You KNOW I'm a man who understands compromise! :wink: Even Darwin revised his theory once or twice! :wink:
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#326
04-24-2008, 05:07 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
I guess there is such a thing as "too honest".
Yes and honesty sometimes 'hurts'. Some people have to dig really deep into themselves and strip away the emotions to see what's really there. Some people never learn to do that, and turn away from people who can. Men are not real good at "compartmentalizing." We sometimes don't know when "honest" is NOT what you (women) want to hear! In fact, we've been "taught" to tell you what you WANT to hear! And.... WHO taught us that? :shock: :roll: Furthermore, after being taught THAT all our lives, we are disarmed when we meet a truly HONEST woman.... one who can accept the truth! That picture you posted ( I think it was you ) of the man with his belly faling out from under his T-shirt.... that struck me as a dichotomy! I see SO MANY WOMEN these days that look like that! WTF???? Don't you CARE about the way you look anymore? Do you think I'm gonna accept that? Not unless I'M 200 lbs overweight and have NO OTHER options! :roll: Obesity is at epidemic levels in this country for both sexes. Guess we're going back to the medieval idea that the wealthier people are the fattest. JK :wink: [And I believe that standard should apply both ways!] I CANNOT change the "social" or "biological" FACT that MEN are "visual" and women are "mental." I go BACK to previous posts where I stated that women will (and should) consider a man's intellect and/or physical attributes when choosing a mate (for the socialization of the species) and MEN are disposed to consider the sexual attractiveness of a female for the SAME! I didn't make the rules! Email your objections to Darwin!! Darwin is dead and I'm not sure even he would understand the male/female dynamic of today, (because we have screwed it up so badly). So do those rules still hold true if you are not looking for a mate to propagate the species? At my age and stage in life, what I am looking for has changed drastically from when I was younger. But, in today's world, it is almost impossible for a man, who is evolved, to find a woman with an intellectually provocative MIND, who hasn't let her BODY fall into sexual decay! It's as if Women's LIB gave you a license to get FAT! Again, goes both ways. There are STILL "unevolved" men out there who will pay sexual tribute to anything that BREATHES! But, they have the HONESTY level of a RABBIT! But, if you want one that RESPECTS you, you need to understand the complex relationship between sexual neccessity and intellectual honesty! In short, an "evolved" man, needs BOTH sexual "visual" attraction, AND intellectual companionship! There..... THAT'S the truth..... (as I understand it.) And again.... I believe THAT standard applies BOTH ways! Exactly!!! But there is far more pressure, in our society, on women to be a size 0! The constant bombardment by the media of these idealized women has crossed the line into abusive. Do you have any idea of thenumber of young girls who have eating disorders because of this? You don't hear about many males having that problem, do you? The very fact that Sports Illustrated has a "Swimsuit Issue" focuses on the "sex sells" mentality of our society. C'mon it's a sports magazine. And the so-called womens magazines are no better. They glorify the anorexic, fake boobed women! So how does a "normal" woman compete with that? My daughter has this on her MySpace Marilyn Monroe, still considered one of the sexiest women to ever work in film, was a size 14. (No really! It's true!) In fact, in some of her best-known films (Love Happy, Some Like It Hot) she got up to a size 16. Mae West, who was also considered an incredibly sexy, sensual, attractive woman during her heyday (during the flapper era no less) was the equivalent of a size 18. Two excellent examples of how astonishingly, amazingly beautiful so-called "plus-sized" women can be. Now, the flip side... The current average dress size of a Hollywood actress is (turn your head if you're squeamish) a size 2. A SIZE 2! Some of the "bigger" actresses get up to a size 4, many are as small as a size 0... To put this in perspective... According to the Victoria's Secret catalog (long a bastion of unrealistic and unreasonable expectations of women's bodies... although I do admit to shopping there sometimes myself) a ladies' size 2 measures as follows: Bust: 32 Waist:23 Hip: 33 For purposes of comparison, I looked around in a few other catalogs to see just how big a size 2 really is. Here's a sobering realization for everybody: the waist measurement of a size 2 dress (23 inches) is also the waist measurement for another size: a 4T! (That is, for the non-maternal among us, an article of clothing designed to fit a normal 4-year-old child.) The reality of a size 4T (to make this even scarier) is that few four year old children wear a 4T -- more like 2.5 - 3 year olds. I'm a mom and have lots of friends who have children -- none of our kids, wore a 4T at age 4. They were all closer to 3 years of age. So, children who are barely out of diapers have the same waist size as many Hollywood stars. That is scary! If you want to be TREATED like a princess, you need to LOOK like one! That is the fairly tale WE were taught! If you want a PRINCE CHARMING to come rescue you, you need to realize that beneath that armour, he may not have "ripped abs!" But, he will have courage, strength and a committment to purpose. The biggest LIE propogated on the female population today, is that "we are all beautiful INSIDE!" Bullchit! MEN don't get to KNOW you "inside" until they've been attracted to your OUTSIDE! That is truth..... that is honesty! How true! But again, goes both ways! And when SOME find this out, they turn instead to WOMEN for that "acceptance" because it is EASIER than situps! Others will find men who want only ONE thing.... and don't CARE how it's wrapeed! Is that enough honesty for you? Again..... I did NOT make the RULES!! I am telling you what I know to be the honest truth. If a woman does not maintain an overall appearance of attractiveness, she will attract "dishonest" men who will tell her anything to get what they want.... because THEY are the type of man who wants only ONE thing! An HONEST man, who has ANY pride, will look for a "farily" attractive woman, and THEN...... will attempt to get to KNOW her if he is looking for more than a "roll in the Peterbuilt Bunk!" This is not rocket science, people! If your "possible" mate for the night... or a lifetime.... doesn't ask questions about WHO you are, and WHAT you believe..... he/she is "honestly" only looking for a quickie! But, in failing to do so, they have "honestly" imparted their intentions. After 20 minutes or so of this, it is up to YOU to decide what happens next.... and what happens next is dependant on YOUR "honesty." YOU women are STILL in control..... but you attract the type of men you DESERVE! If you don't CARE about yourselves, why should HE? On the other hand.... if you LOOK like a Playboy Bunny, your task is harder. You will attract EVERY man, and YOU must determine which ones are attracted by your MIND! For the few who actually LOOK like this, and CARE..... That will be in chapter 13, and the price is now $31.95 :lol: :lol: More Later I have to go to work!
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln
#327
04-24-2008, 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
REB said:
At least on here I can edit myself sometimes.
Yeah I know. I get bored easily and I too am a visual person, and I'm not always crazy about my own pics, so I don't leave them up long. But, I wnet to your myspace page, and I "believe" that is the real you. I saw it once on here (for about 10 hours) and I like it! Now.... how fat IS that azz? You KNOW I'm a man who understands compromise! :wink: There are lots of pics of me on my MySpace page, 2 albums as a matter of fact, mostly old pics, but a few current ones. And thank you BTW! There are no pictures of my azz however, because even if they did exist, I wouldn't post them online. :shock: Even Darwin revised his theory once or twice! :wink:
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln
#328
04-25-2008, 03:26 AM
There are lots of pics of me on my MySpace page, 2 albums as a matter of fact, mostly old pics, but a few current ones. And thank you BTW! There are no pictures of my azz however, because even if they did exist, I wouldn't post them online.
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Remember... friends are few and far between. TRUCKIN' AIN'T FOR WUSSES!!! "I am willing to admit that I was wrong." The Rev.
#329
04-25-2008, 03:42 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
There are lots of pics of me on my MySpace page, 2 albums as a matter of fact, mostly old pics, but a few current ones. And thank you BTW! There are no pictures of my azz however, because even if they did exist, I wouldn't post them online.
BTW you do know the current avatar isn't me right?
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln
#330
04-25-2008, 06:47 AM
Reb said:
Yes and honesty sometimes 'hurts'. Some people have to dig really deep into themselves and strip away the emotions to see what's really there. Some people never learn to do that, and turn away from people who can.
Obesity is at epidemic levels in this country for both sexes. Guess we're going back to the medieval idea that the wealthier people are the fattest. JK :wink:
Darwin is dead and I'm not sure even he would understand the male/female dynamic of today, (because we have screwed it up so badly). So do those rules still hold true if you are not looking for a mate to propagate the species? At my age and stage in life, what I am looking for has changed drastically from when I was younger.
Exactly!!! But there is far more pressure, in our society, on women to be a size 0! The constant bombardment by the media of these idealized women has crossed the line into abusive. Do you have any idea of the number of young girls who have eating disorders because of this?
YES.... I DO! You don't hear about many males having that problem, do you? The very fact that Sports Illustrated has a "Swimsuit Issue" focuses on the "sex sells" mentality of our society. C'mon it's a sports magazine. And the so-called womens magazines are no better. They glorify the anorexic, fake boobed women! So how does a "normal" woman compete with that? My daughter has this on her MySpace
Marilyn Monroe, still considered one of the sexiest women to ever work in film, was a size 14. (No really! It's true!) In fact, in some of her best-known films (Love Happy, Some Like It Hot) she got up to a size 16. Mae West, who was also considered an incredibly sexy, sensual, attractive woman during her heyday (during the flapper era no less) was the equivalent of a size 18. Two excellent examples of how astonishingly, amazingly beautiful so-called "plus-sized" women can be.
Now, the flip side... The current average dress size of a Hollywood actress is (turn your head if you're squeamish) a size 2. A SIZE 2! Some of the "bigger" actresses get up to a size 4, many are as small as a size 0... To put this in perspective... According to the Victoria's Secret catalog (long a bastion of unrealistic and unreasonable expectations of women's bodies... although I do admit to shopping there sometimes myself) a ladies' size 2 measures as follows: Bust: 32 Waist:23 Hip: 33 For purposes of comparison, I looked around in a few other catalogs to see just how big a size 2 really is. Here's a sobering realization for everybody: the waist measurement of a size 2 dress (23 inches) is also the waist measurement for another size: a 4T! (That is, for the non-maternal among us, an article of clothing designed to fit a normal 4-year-old child.) The reality of a size 4T (to make this even scarier) is that few four year old children wear a 4T -- more like 2.5 - 3 year olds. I'm a mom and have lots of friends who have children -- none of our kids, wore a 4T at age 4. They were all closer to 3 years of age. So, children who are barely out of diapers have the same waist size as many Hollywood stars. That is scary! I would say, depending on your heighth..... a woman between size 5 and 9 (based on the OLD sizing) was just about right! But, those sizes have CHANGED, so I don't know WHAT it would be NOW! Heck with Darwin.... SUE Victoria's Secret! :lol: Interesting, don't you think, that a MAN'S size 34 jeans have NEVER changed over the years! Either we are MORE honest.... or just bad at the "new Math!" :lol: Now, the TODDLER sizing is a different story! And this proves my point! There IS some kind of "evolution" going on, and babies and toddlers are getting TOO BIG for their diapers! A 4T means exactly THAT! If "YOUR" toddler is wearing that size at 2-3 years, you need to adjust his/her food intake! Otherwise, by the time they are a "teen" they will be looking to Oprah to tell them it is OKAY to be FAT.... and that some Prince Charming will still find them beautiful "inside!" Problem is..... MEN DIDN'T GET THE MEMO!!! :shock: :lol: I look around at teenage girls today (Sorry, but I can't help it!) and I am shocked and dismayed! If girls had been THAT big around the waist/belly when "I" was in school, I'd STILL be a virgin! :shock: I REALLY don't know what is causing it! Preservatives in the food? Lack of discipline in/by the parents (US)?? "Feel good" messages by the Left Wing Liberals?? :wink: Or just plain EVOLUTION "of" the species... WITHIN the species. I don't know. But, I have noticed... and I am concerned. The "measurements" you listed earlier.... 33-23-33 or thereabouts, have ALWAYS been the "accepted" proportions that trigger sexual passion in the male brain! That has not, and probably WILL NOT change. Mae West was sexy ( to SOME ) but "voluptous!" SOME men just like MORE cushion for the pushin! But, they are not in the majority, and (if you believe what you see in old movies,) were probably no PRIZE themselves..... and were probably PAYING for it! It IS a fact, that SOME men only have ONE brain..... and it AIN'T in their cranium! :shock: :lol: Is THIS the kind of man you women are looking for? I don't think so. I don't believe such a "specimen" would be able to accept your equality as a driver! So.... like US..... unless YOU are somewhat decently "proportioned" and put your best "face" forward, you will have to settle for less than your dream. OR spend many years looking for that one who sees your "inner beauty" as you walk from the fuel island to the T/S!! Again.... I don't MAKE the rules..... I just explain them! :lol: If you want to CRY about how unfair it is..... I will JOIN you in a pool of tears! But, I KNOW why Christie Brinkley wouldn't give ME the time of day, and it has NOTHING to do with how smart I am, or how "sensitive" I am, or how POETIC I am! If THAT were ALL it took to attract the perfect woman, I'd be brokering them out to the likes of the REV!! :lol: If you can believe all the advertisements on Sirius radio today, SIZE matters! And yes..... THAT goes both ways!! Are there SOME out there (of both sexes) that care about more? YES!! But, they are hard to find! If you're looking for them in a Truckstop, you will HAVE to employ some of the ideas I mentioned earlier! In fact, the same ideas apply to looking for them in ANY walk of life! ANYONE who is "advertising" their goods, is trying to move a product that is not selling well! Any "bargain hunter" will tell you they had to look long and hard to FIND it! LIFE is hard work!! And we don't even get PAID for it! (CFM should probably just QUIT! :lol: :lol: ) Like my IDOL, Dennis Miller (before he defected to the Republicans) always said..... "That's just MY opinion.... I COULD be wrong!) :lol: :lol: Oh yeah..... since I'm SURE I"ve offended someone..... my apologies in advance! I suppose I should LEARN not to be so 'honest.'
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