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#11
05-20-2007, 03:36 AM
You aren't required to tell your employer why you are taking a medication nor is your doctor required to - all you are rquired is that when being tested for drugs and alcohol is to inform the tester that you are under doctors care and using certain meds which the tester is required to keep confidential and not report to your employer but is needed to accurately read the test. If your employer pays for the tests however you may wish to request the test be done at an idependant lab, pay for it yourself and have the employer reimburse you with proof of receipt. Because unfortunately when employers pay for medical that gives them an access to your private medical information that they have no business having access too. Please remember the nature of an illness is your business and no one elses. How are you handling the hot flashes - I found a little ice in my shoes works miracles
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#12
05-20-2007, 03:44 AM
I'm not a doctor, but lived with depression in my life now and again threw the years. Depression is a state of mind folks, not a disease, and I don't care who says what about it. If you are depressed, it's because something in your life, or your life in general is not to your standards, whether the person wants to own up to the fact of not. It could also be spurred by your eating habits, or diet. So, sit down, think long and hard over it, and once you figure out what it is bugging you, do something to counter-act it, NOT TAKE A PILL! Your brain, the system itself is too complex for doctors to know how to treat, if it did have a legitimate problem. More times then not, folks will make a mountain out of a mole hill, especially with their health, and will seek out the over-night sensation that will treat it. Wake up America, please.
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#13
05-20-2007, 03:52 AM
For those of you who think that she should not take paxil - shame on you - you are not doctors you are not her you do not know why it was prescribed. Her depression may be quite severe and depression even with the change of life is a disease. While those of you made treatment suggestions like yoga and exercise and naturopathy sound good and they do work sometimes for some people you also came across that paxil and depression and the change of life are something to avoid. I have a good clue what i am talking about, my change of life had early onset with years of periomenopause, severe depression and nasty moods swings. Not only did i HAVE to take paxil but many other drugs for a good portion of my life that does not mean i am still on them, my change was so nasty i now have an Endocrinology specialist that i see on a regular basis whose phone i have a directly line to for any changes in my condition. And for the person who actually suggested that the prescription for drugs was given based on the gender of the doctor get a dose of reality all my doctors are male so the giving of prescriptions is not a gender issue. Sorry you had such a bad experience but unless you have had menopause yourself you really have no leg to stand on. If you want to whine as to why she titled her subject 'men' think 'M E N opause'.
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#14
05-20-2007, 04:04 AM
The only thing i like about menopause is (besides the no more whoops kid on the way worries) is as my endocrinlogists says if you crave it EAT It your body is just sending u a message that its low on some nutrient. Of course that doesn't mean hoarking out but eating it in moderation. So the guys know we all have male and female hormones to be male you just have more male hormones if your body suddenly stopped producing those how would you think you would handle the changes your body went thro? By the way this does happen its called andropause and if and when it happens to you be prepared you will become an emotional basket case, may develope breasts, will lose sex drive and body hair - when it happens to you then come back and give this courageous woman your advice my guess you'll be asking her for help
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#15
05-20-2007, 04:20 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Well... I don't suppose I'll get any awards for THIS post!
The "Hitting a Nerve" award. :mrgreen:
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#16
05-20-2007, 04:33 AM
I'm sorry I wasn't blaming anyone, I just am the worlds worst speller. So thats why I put men. Thank you to those that understood what I was trying to ask. I have been taking black cohosh for the hot flashes. It really has helped me.
#17
05-20-2007, 05:52 AM
Damn hobo, you got some 'nads but I agree with you 100%. People today rely way too much on so called "experts".
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05-20-2007, 07:15 AM
Originally Posted by malaekat
For those of you who think that she should not take paxil - shame on you - you are not doctors you are not her you do not know why it was prescribed. Her depression may be quite severe and depression even with the change of life is a disease. While those of you made treatment suggestions like yoga and exercise and naturopathy sound good and they do work sometimes for some people you also came across that paxil and depression and the change of life are something to avoid. I have a good clue what i am talking about, my change of life had early onset with years of periomenopause, severe depression and nasty moods swings. Not only did i HAVE to take paxil but many other drugs for a good portion of my life that does not mean i am still on them, my change was so nasty i now have an Endocrinology specialist that i see on a regular basis whose phone i have a directly line to for any changes in my condition. And for the person who actually suggested that the prescription for drugs was given based on the gender of the doctor get a dose of reality all my doctors are male so the giving of prescriptions is not a gender issue. Sorry you had such a bad experience but unless you have had menopause yourself you really have no leg to stand on. If you want to whine as to why she titled her subject 'men' think 'M E N opause'.
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#20
05-20-2007, 10:51 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Well... I don't suppose I'll get any awards for THIS post!
1) I wonder what women DID for thousands of years BEFORE paxil and other drugs when they "approached" the change of life? 2) I wonder why ANY woman who drives a truck would fall for this crap!? 3) My mother fell for this crap 40 years ago, and has been "screwed up" on meds ever since.... so I DO know what I'm talking about! 4) I, TOO, suffer from depression and ADD, and have forgone ALL meds since I started driving a truck, so I DO know what I'm talking about! 5) You DO realize, of course, that the pharmaceutical companies give your doctor LOTS of free samples to give away to anyone who even HINTS that they need help, so that HOPEFULLY, they will continue to BUY these prescription drugs for the rest of their lives, right? 6) Did I mention that women suffered this situation for YEARS upon YEARS without medically altering their BRAINS? 7) Did anyone tell you that these drugs can be HABIT FORMING? 8.) I'm out of material, so I guess I'll just add this.... Does anyone besides ME see this as the NEW method of "keeping the woman barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen?" Does anyone remember the song "Mother's little helper?" I've BEEN there and lived through it (with my mother.) I was there the day we managed to get her OUT of the mental institution that the doctors put her in! After 2 days in there, she said, "I'm not CRAZY, but if you leave me in here for long, I WILL be!" (It took us two weeks or more to get her out.) Have you tried vitamins (which are suspect)? Or accupuncture? Or Yoga? Have you tried ANYTHING (like EXERCISE?) besides sheepishly following your "so-called" doctor's advice to take mind altering drugs? Have you tried realizing that you're a woman, and post partum depression and menopause are a fact of your life? And before you say I'm "sexist," I feel the same way about PTSD, or whatever the "term du jour" is for suffering the horrors of WAR! Life sucks! Life is HARD! War is HELL! The drugs to treat these "symptoms of life" are expensive! Dubya has made sure that they cannot be gotten cheaper! What part of this medical charade do you not understand? This country was built by people (pioneers) who didn't have access to, nor need for these drugs. WHAT about childbirth has changed since then? Paxil for the "change of life?" Are you KIDDING ME?? Tell your doctor that, (since you've NOT taken drugs before and never needed them,) he can stuff his free samples of mind altering drugs and just make sure you have no biotic infections! Then, pull yourself out of whatever depression Oprah has convinced you that you SHOULD have about now, and get back to work! :roll: I'm NOT saying there's not a "change" in body temperature or temperament associated with the "change of life." We men have suffered "similar" changes throughout eternity. I'm saying.... quit letting a doctor "put you out to pasture" by giving you a mind altering drug (that could affect your driving career) just because it is expedient for HIM, profitable for the drug companies, and socially "expected" and "acceptable." God created your body and mind! He did NOT specify that certain drugs would be necessary to MAINTAIN them! By taking EVERY drug that comes down the pike, we are not only "questioning" his creation, we are "condemning" it! If you want your KIDS to be "drug free," start with YOURSELVES! Great post, You should get the award for telling it exactly like it is. I have read alot of books and articles about these multi-billion dollar parmacutecal companies and how they are only out to make money off of people, they don't give a damn about making people better, and these doctors prescribing these meds get big kickbacks from these companies for pushing their drugs. |
