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GoldiesPlating 03-31-2007 08:17 AM

As far as me responding to anyone's CLAIMS, complaints or opinions, I will do so if and WHEN they provide me with their Name and DOB so I can FIRST see if they were FIRED for failing a drug test, poor driving record, poor attitude, lack of work ethic, etc, etc..... Anyone can rant and rave and post ANTHING their heart desires on an open forum such as this. If you want HONEST, COMPANY answers from a COMPANY employee, have the courtesy to give me YOUR TRUE INFO FIRST so I can FIRST verify that YOU are being honest and up-front about your claims.
And please forgive my following opinion:
If anyone here only made $35,000 (give or take a few thousand) at TMC their first year, there is SERIOUSLY something wrong with you and you are probably better of NOT working here.

mudflap276 03-31-2007 08:18 AM

its one thing to put info out that people can use to make a decision but most of what you have been doing is complaining that something isnt/wasnt going your way and arguing back an forth. the last thread was shut down because some has-been, cant-cut wanna-be trucker started arguing just like what has been posted on the last few pages. you have put out your opinion and your problems, now you can move on. if someone wants to ask you a question then so be it, but stop the arguing like little kids and start acting like grownups otherwise this thread will be locked like before.

GoldiesPlating 03-31-2007 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by mudflap276
its one thing to put info out that people can use to make a decision but most of what you have been doing is complaining that something isnt/wasnt going your way and arguing back an forth. the last thread was shut down because some has-been, cant-cut wanna-be trucker started arguing just like what has been posted on the last few pages. you have put out your opinion and your problems, now you can move on. if someone wants to ask you a question then so be it, but stop the arguing like little kids and start acting like grownups otherwise this thread will be locked like before.

WELL SAID MUDFLAP.

vonSeggern 03-31-2007 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzdog
vonSeggern,

I look forward to an intelligent, thoughtful, response to the claims that I have made based on facts that can be backed up through documentation.


I am at a loss towards your claims of calling me a whiny slacker pouting disgruntled loser.

In the time that I was at TMC, I drove close to 3,000 miles a week while only requesting to be home 1 weekend. A far cry from being a slacker.

I feel that I have legitimate claims regarding TMC that I have attempted to take the time to address in a public forum in an articulate manner. The purpose to help inform other drivers as to the situation and work conditions that I faced while at TMC. Telling an opposing view is pouting and whiny?

I was not happy at TMC so I chose to give my notice and turned in the truck and equipment where instructed to. Because I have issues with the company and I am making them public exercising my constitutional rights, while opposed to your views makes me disgruntled?

As to your last comment regarding me as a "loser". That only helps to give my point credibility. You make this judgment as to my character based on a few posts on a forum? When an individual is unable to stay on point and address the argument in front of them, they resort to juvenille attacks.


If you would like to answer the questions that I have asked please do so with factual information. Also if you would like to address any of the issues that I had to deal with at TMC please do so. As a side note, and please forgive my ignorance, could you please give your experience in the industry and which companies you have worked for. The reason I ask is to see if you have experience with other comapnies and what companies they were to give light to your point of view.

I look forward to your response and any that chooses to respond to refute my points.

Did you take my comment to mean you?

In as much as you essentially referred to me and others as a lyin' shills for TMC, and the fact that you are making mis-statements about the company, cause me to wonder whether you might be working in recruiting for another carrier. I would say that our ignorance is matched tit-for-tat.

If your tactic is to say that I have no experience with other companies (you are correct) then I will graciously allow you to win the entire arguement. I guess I cannot compete with you intellectually because you have more experience than I.

I will say one thing. I just don't see the problems that you do. I make good money and I am happy with the company.

I do have empathy for you though; in general you seem to be a generally bitter person.

You can kick my a** all over this thread and I won't reply or comment.

Good luck.

Buzzdog 03-31-2007 02:02 PM

At this time I want to apologize for any derogatory remark that I have made against the pro-tmc camp. This will include any remarks made that insinuate that they are a company suck up or any other comment that would attempt to undermine their character or credability.

From this point on I think it would be most helpful and serve the community best if all parties would refrain from all juvenile response.

It is obvious that the pro-tmc camp are pasionate and loyal to their company.

I hope that in the future that an open debate can be had on the forum.

BoyNextDoor 03-31-2007 02:20 PM

i believe we can have an open debate, but in another thread that is also public.

Yes, i did say that i was home every weekend, except this one. My wife is in Europe for 2 weeks visiting family, so there is no point for me to go home. I'll make some extra money instead runnong on the weekends. this one, and the next one.

See, hoemtime was at utmost the most important for me. At least till the beginning phase is over, and we as a family (my wife and me) get used to this lifestyle, than i may keep staying out a few weeks at a time. So i have not found another company that gets me home every weekend, but than again, i'm only 23, and i may have missed a thing or two during research.

Buzzdog, i truly wish you will find your place in a company that suits you.

Cheers

BND

Skywalker 03-31-2007 02:50 PM

Goldie... I think probably the only thing I could ping you for is how you presented your income. While you may make $60K in 2007, to project it as if you had already earned is a little "disingenuous". Also, the fact that you are on a local and dedicated account that pays you a salary every week... shows that you have what the average driver will probably never see. Jobs like yours are far from the norm.

I thinks its great that you are as happy as you are at TMC. I wish more drivers were happy where they work....or that they could find the company that could satisfy their needs....but I'm talking about a "perfect world"... :shock:

I have never driven for TMC....and the chance that I ever would is about zero.... I'm too old for flatbedding and well, honestly...the thought of it doesn't ring any bells for me. I'm a happy camper doing my "chemical tanker" thing... :D :D :D

But in all honesty....I have spoken to a number of drivers with TMC.... and some have had nothing but "high praise" for the company, while some others haven't been so positive about the company who say its "about the same as most". Those were experienced drivers who had some "bark" on them, and had past employers to compare them to. A few others....they didn't say much nice at all. But I think this is quite normal.

Y'all....I think the real purpose of these forums is to freely share information. While Goldie states that TMC is the greatest, and Buzzdog feels the opposite....we all have to remember that in forums, its expected that the great, the good, the bad, and the ugly will be pointed out. If its not, and every poster says the same thing about their company that it is the greatest, can't be beat and so on.... It causes me to think of the old adage: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

I think its better for prospective drivers to hear it all. It gives some balance to the information.... And they will make up their minds one way or the other no matter what.

The last thing I will say is: The CAD forums are far better than any others on the web. There is far, far less bashing and name calling here. Lets keep it that way. Personally.... I think it diminishes the credibility of the person who does it. The message gets lost in the chaff. Lets play nice...OK? 8)

devildice 03-31-2007 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Skywalker
Y'all....I think the real purpose of these forums is to freely share information. While Goldie states that TMC is the greatest, and Buzzdog feels the opposite....we all have to remember that in forums, its expected that the great, the good, the bad, and the ugly will be pointed out. If its not, and every poster says the same thing about their company that it is the greatest, can't be beat and so on....It causes me to think of the old adage: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

good point!!


Originally Posted by Skywalker
I think its better for prospective drivers to hear it all. It gives some balance to the information.... And they will make up their minds one way or the other no matter what.

Another great point, it's exactly what I was saying in my previous post. Let each individual draw their own conclusions based on ALL the information available.....good, bad, and ugly


Originally Posted by Skywalker
The last thing I will say is: The CAD forums are far better than any others on the web. There is far, far less bashing and name calling here. Lets keep it that way. Personally.... I think it diminishes the credibility of the person who does it. The message gets lost in the chaff. Lets play nice...OK? 8)

Again, another good point and I agree 100%....lets debate like mature adults and refrain from childish name calling.

GoldiesPlating 03-31-2007 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Skywalker
Goldie... I think probably the only thing I could ping you for is how you presented your income. While you may make $60K in 2007, to project it as if you had already earned is a little "disingenuous". Also, the fact that you are on a local and dedicated account that pays you a salary every week... shows that you have what the average driver will probably never see. Jobs like yours are far from the norm.

I thinks its great that you are as happy as you are at TMC. I wish more drivers were happy where they work....or that they could find the company that could satisfy their needs....but I'm talking about a "perfect world"... :shock:

I have never driven for TMC....and the chance that I ever would is about zero.... I'm too old for flatbedding and well, honestly...the thought of it doesn't ring any bells for me. I'm a happy camper doing my "chemical tanker" thing... :D :D :D

But in all honesty....I have spoken to a number of drivers with TMC.... and some have had nothing but "high praise" for the company, while some others haven't been so positive about the company who say its "about the same as most". Those were experienced drivers who had some "bark" on them, and had past employers to compare them to. A few others....they didn't say much nice at all. But I think this is quite normal.

Y'all....I think the real purpose of these forums is to freely share information. While Goldie states that TMC is the greatest, and Buzzdog feels the opposite....we all have to remember that in forums, its expected that the great, the good, the bad, and the ugly will be pointed out. If its not, and every poster says the same thing about their company that it is the greatest, can't be beat and so on.... It causes me to think of the old adage: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

I think its better for prospective drivers to hear it all. It gives some balance to the information.... And they will make up their minds one way or the other no matter what.

The last thing I will say is: The CAD forums are far better than any others on the web. There is far, far less bashing and name calling here. Lets keep it that way. Personally.... I think it diminishes the credibility of the person who does it. The message gets lost in the chaff. Lets play nice...OK? 8)

EXCELLENT POST. I AGREE. Buzz I and are are talking (and "playing nice" now) through email and are bordering on being genuine FRIENDS! I will make an ATTEMPT to answer his long list of questions and have sent them via email to recruiting and await an answer to them.
Consider the hatchet buried. Drinks anyone??? :party:

Buzzdog 03-31-2007 03:42 PM

BoyNextDoor,

Why should the debate regarding TMC not be in the TMC thread? I do not know what purpose it would serve to have it in another thread. It would only make it difficult for anyone looking for information on the company.

But you bring up an issue that new driver will have to deal with. HOMETIME.

TMC does boast a huge selling point to potential drivers in regards to home time. The reason of course is the operational hours of the customers for flatbed freight. They opperate Monday-Friday and usually normal buisness hours. This is the reason why TMC as well as other flatbed companies can offer this.

Now the issue that new drivers will face, and this is an industry wide issue, is that the typical "weekend" is in fact getting home either late Friday or early Saturday and leave out Sunday afternoon or evening in order to make delivery on Monday morning. Alot of times barely even having a full 48 hours at home. I want to make it absolutely clear that this is not a TMC only problem. It is industry wide. I only bring up this point so drivers will be informed to a true home time expectation.

I hope that what I mentioned above does not set anyone off. But I have seldom if ever seen this pointed out to potential new drivers. This is something that they will have to deal with no matter what company they choose to drive for. I have had to deal with it at every company that I worked for.

Be safe.


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