Why Im leaving TMC...

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Originally Posted by dollarshort
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Originally Posted by csramsey640
I was a consistant 4000 to 4500 a week driver.
4,000-4500 mpw...what a load of BS!!! :roll:

Well, I have yet to have any supertruckers take me up on this offer...but here goes: I will put up $10,000 cash and you put up another $10k and we will wire an EOBR in your truck. And if you can average 4000-4500 mpw with the EOBR over a period of one month then you win. If not, then I win.

Care to try your luck?
WRONG! You now have someone taking you up on your offer. I am finally gonna shut you **** smart ass up. Just because you are a disgruntled ex-OTR doesn't mean the job sucks for everyone.

There are plenty of OTR drivers that do quite well in their position.

So come on smartass, lets dance.

Sorry, didn't mean to highjack thread, but I am sick and tired of this asshole and his pessimistic horseshit.
This could get interesting .
 
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Old 02-23-2008, 05:12 AM
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Nah. CFM is going to tap dance outta this like Fred Astaire in an MGM musical......
 
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Originally Posted by terrylamar
Or, maybe, he is talking about revenue to the truck. That would be my bet.
Hmmmm...thought he was talking about mileage..forgot those guys ran under percentage (and are now seeing the error in doing so when rates fall through the floor). Ah, I see my error silly me.
 
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I was just getting ready to ask that question, I know TMC gives the option of pct. or cpm. But I don't know how it works on a dedicated acct.
It seems cpm would be the way to go for the foreseeable future anyway.
 
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dollarshort
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Originally Posted by csramsey640
I was a consistant 4000 to 4500 a week driver.
4,000-4500 mpw...what a load of BS!!! :roll:

Well, I have yet to have any supertruckers take me up on this offer...but here goes: I will put up $10,000 cash and you put up another $10k and we will wire an EOBR in your truck. And if you can average 4000-4500 mpw with the EOBR over a period of one month then you win. If not, then I win.

Care to try your luck?
WRONG! You now have someone taking you up on your offer. I am finally gonna shut you **** smart ass up. Just because you are a disgruntled ex-OTR doesn't mean the job sucks for everyone.

There are plenty of OTR drivers that do quite well in their position.

So come on smartass, lets dance.

Sorry, didn't mean to highjack thread, but I am sick and tired of this asshole and his pessimistic horseshit.
There is a part of me that kinda thinks CFM would actually put up $10,000 for this bet. He's right though, 16,000 miles in 30 days just isn't very likely. You might do 4,000 miles in a 7 day period but 16,000 miles in 30 days just isn't going to happen. Your talking a big game Dollarshort, but i'm thinking your the one thats full of BS.

Why do I feel like this conversation should be taking place on the CB?:roll:
 
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Originally Posted by "ben45750
There is a part of me that kinda thinks CFM would actually put up $10,000 for this bet. He's right though, 16,000 miles in 30 days just isn't very likely. You might do 4,000 miles in a 7 day period but 16,000 miles in 30 days just isn't going to happen. Your talking a big game Dollarshort, but i'm thinking your the one thats full of BS.
Once again, for those of you who don't actually read the thread, the numbers refer to REVENUE TO THE TRUCK not mileage.
 
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Originally Posted by terrylamar
Originally Posted by "ben45750
There is a part of me that kinda thinks CFM would actually put up $10,000 for this bet. He's right though, 16,000 miles in 30 days just isn't very likely. You might do 4,000 miles in a 7 day period but 16,000 miles in 30 days just isn't going to happen. Your talking a big game Dollarshort, but i'm thinking your the one thats full of BS.
Once again, for those of you who don't actually read the thread, the numbers refer to REVENUE TO THE TRUCK not mileage.
During the good times our drivers make lots of money on percentage but then quickly jump ship in the bad times when rates go down. Honestly if you look at a 5 year average of percentage vs mileage you will find that there isn't much difference unless you get really great rates. During the summer rates are good. During the winter the rates are bad. That normal. What I don't like is what the shippers are currently doing. They are writing the same check that they were 1 year ago. As the FSC goes up the rate goes down. This isn't just a TMC problem, this is an industry problem. My solution: if you don't like the rates then run for mileage.

Now for the other problems that were mentioned... ie MPG, idle time. I don't care who you work for you will find that this is common practice. How would you feel if you were paying the bills in a tight market and your employees were just wasting your money? You're just 1 driver out of 4000. Multiply what you waste in idling by 4000 and you will see a huge figure that the company would like to save.

Oh yea....you want thanks and a pat on the back! Thanks for doing a great job of wasting the companies money. ops: :roll:
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Freight rates are a mess. I took a load out of Vermont on Monday that paid less than a $1 to the truck (per mile) going out and on Wednesday got a load going in that paid $2 a mile. At 28% it probably all averages out but things are bad.

The shippers have everyone by the balls. They pay X for the freight and charge Y, making a profit. Who suffers? Drivers, operators, and TMC.
 
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Ok some things need cleared up here. I averaged about 4-4500 in rev each week.


Shadowsknight, your the only one I will respond to This is not a downturn in winter freight, ive been through that before. Again, you must read, and understand before firing back that im wasting $$.

I run a dedicated customer account, which is night and day from a regional dedicated, line or long haul. We do not have a certification, and are just paid a flat rate 25,26,27% depending on years in the truck, with 27% being the cap. Unfortunetly, I am trying to get back to one specific area, so I dont/didnt have the option of turning down a load, nor does my fm, have the option to send me to an area with better $$.

All has been well on the account, because what some of the lousy line haul loads paid coming back, was made up for in dedicated runs going out. Now its a mix between the lower rates, and higher fuel surcharge, and a pi$$ing match with another major player going to the same places.

I am not saying TMC across the board is a horrible company, is out to screw you, etc,etc. You guys read into something its not. Im in a different division,have no cpm option, and operate different equipment.


Im saying that this downturn is one of our biggest yet, and on the dedicated side its harder. I havent abandoned the truck, screwed them over, etc,etc. They HAVE NOT screwed me over. Its just that they are cracking down and working to save $$, Im just not willing to give them $$ back out of my check to do so. I earned a 70mph truck, and im gonna run it...lol.

I should have never wrote a word, I just wanted potential new drivers to know that they must run by a strict set of rules, that are being more and more cracked down on. I still have made no enemies at TMC, and are not wishng to do so. They have been good to me, and by working out a proper notice, Im returning the favor.

BTW, wasting thier $$ ShadowsKnight, ck the top 5 drivers by Fleetmanager, youll find my name consistantly in the top 3-4 since going dedicated, and the list of top 50 TMC as well. Wasting $$ is washing a truck every week in the Northern winter, only to slam salt all over it 100 miles up the road, or 1 day later. Wasting $$ is being in Joplin to have 24 broken things fixed with your truck. IM on my 3rd truck and have never had such "problems"
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by vonSeggern
Freight rates are a mess. I took a load out of Vermont on Monday that paid less than a $1 to the truck (per mile) going out and on Wednesday got a load going in that paid $2 a mile. At 28% it probably all averages out but things are bad.

The shippers have everyone by the balls. They pay X for the freight and charge Y, making a profit. Who suffers? Drivers, operators, and TMC (Insert Company Name Here).
Everybodies hurting...
 

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