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#31
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I can see Sheepdancer not caring cause he's a recruiter and as with most things in life, people don't care until it affects them.
Do you know what our job is? To make the company a profit. Whether you are a driver or a recruiter, this is what we are paid to do. I guess I just realize the more profit the company makes the more money I make. The first thing I do when I come to work in the morning is look at the stock price. I tell myself, "what can I do today to help that price go up" Why? Because when I retire, that is the money I will be living off of. This should be the goal for anyone working in any industry.
#32
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I can see Sheepdancer not caring cause he's a recruiter and as with most things in life, people don't care until it affects them.
Do you know what our job is? To make the company a profit. Whether you are a driver or a recruiter, this is what we are paid to do. I guess I just realize the more profit the company makes the more money I make. The first thing I do when I come to work in the morning is look at the stock price. I tell myself, "what can I do today to help that price go up" Why? Because when I retire, that is the money I will be living off of. This should be the goal for anyone working in any industry.
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#33
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I'm not one for the conspiracy theories, however, if this dumb move allowing the Mexican national to invade our roads turns out to be beneficial, and all of the trucking industry benefits, I'll buy that steak dinner for you and your wife/girlfriend, and all of your kids. And I won't wait 20 years from now......same time, next year.
#34
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Redsfan, nobody is talking conspiracy to wreck the economy. The fact is the rich are trying to get richer. Look none of us are economists here, and I don't pretend to know everything, but something isn't right here.
Now I don't know where these immigrants from New Zealand, but I do know about Spanish immigrants as much as a white gringo can know. I speak spanish and I talk to these people. We paint them all with a broad brush but illegal immigrants come in many different forms (maybe that's a bad word). In south Florida many from South America are educated and as a matter of fact they themselves look down on the Mexicans and Central Americans. you call one of them a mexican and you see what happens. These Mexicans, and really I know many more Central Americans, will work like you can't believe and take all types of abuse. Many of them can't even read or write in their own language. They are very humble people. I don't care who you pay 14 cents a mile to, it's abuse. My whole point which I keep saying, is you are not bringing them up by hiring them at slave labor, but bringing us down. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I was already asked to be a trainer as they need Spanish speaking trainers. So the fact is this thing is coming. What do they need spanish speaking trainers for if by law all drivers are supposed to speak and write English? Nobody seems to care until it affects them, here's a piece from the USA Today the other day: Our view on Wall Street woes: Look who wants protection from foreign rivals now With their own jobs, bonuses at risk, financial elite seek relief. When Main Street jobs go overseas, Wall Street generally shrugs. The typical response from the nation's financial elite is that people who have lost work should tough it out and acquire new skills. Now the tables may be turning, as Wall Street ponders its own potential job losses. Foreign companies are increasingly bypassing New York and listing their shares on overseas markets. If the trend continues, it could mean the migration of high-paying investment banking jobs. The horror! Faced with this threat, Wall Street and its political supporters have sprung into action, commissioning studies and urging that the government help by easing post-Enron accounting regulations, adopting lawsuit reform and pre-empting state banking regulations. Regulation and litigation are, to be sure, legitimate issues, ones that go well beyond Wall Street. But they are not why companies are listing on foreign exchanges. That is happening for the same reason that other industries have gone overseas — global competition. New York has long been the world's financial center. Now bankers in other countries are mastering financial skills — much as others in past decades figured out how to produce textiles, cars and appliances — and are competing at prices that undercut New York. According to a study by the London Stock Exchange, for instance, New York firms' underwriting fees for initial public offerings of stock are about twice those charged throughout Europe. Before Wall Street gets any relief from Washington, it should consider lowering its fees and expectations of exorbitant profits and bonuses. According to the New York comptroller's office, the average Wall Street bonus was a record-smashing $137,580 last year, hardly a sign of an industry in distress. The pleas coming from Wall Street are akin to the National Association of Realtors arguing that the downturn in housing requires government action to help brokers. The loss of financial services jobs would certainly be bad for New York and for anyone interested in being a U.S.-based investment banker. But from customers' perspective, the increased competition means more choice and lower fees. Moreover, regulations are not designed to protect investment bankers. They are to protect investors and consumers. What do investors think? Some groups, like the mutual fund industry's Investment Company Institute, favor modest accounting law changes that fall far short of Wall Street's sky-is-falling attitude. Others, like the pension fund-oriented Council of Institutional Investors, are downright hostile to Wall Street's ideas. The jobs in question are among the high-skill, high-wage ones that should drive the U.S. economy in a competitive age. But ultimately the way to keep them is by competing on the basis of price, quality and integrity. That is something that Americans in other professions have come to know. Wall Street can do so as well. Here's the link to the actual article: http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/02/post_30.html
#35
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I'm not one for the conspiracy theories, however, if this dumb move allowing the Mexican national to invade our roads turns out to be beneficial, and all of the trucking industry benefits, I'll buy that steak dinner for you and your wife/girlfriend, and all of your kids. And I won't wait 20 years from now......same time, next year.
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#36
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you could always take a pay cut........
#37
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Originally Posted by Cluggy619
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I know what you are saying now.
As far as celedon and the mexican national thing. I personally dont know enough about it to comment. However let me take the devils advocate side for debate purposes. Say Celedon does use mexican drivers bringing stuff across the border and delivery in the states at 13 cpm. All in the good name of profit. Personally, I dont see that taking away from the american driver. This would be a new source of freight. Now say this happens and Celedon doesnt cut the pay of american drivers. And say the company makes record profits and the stock price goes up big time. Any Celedon driver who was smart enough to invest in the company would also benefit greatly by this. So everyone wins. A good employee stock purchase plan at a very profitable company can end up in the long run making the driver more money than he was paid for driving a truck. Anybody knows what the percentage this is in relation to the US trucking industry? And once this starts, who to say it won't continue? Expand to other companies? But who cares, right? If your a owner/operator, you should. Once this foothold get in, you will be the first to feel the effects. Lease/operators....bad for you too. The last one to feel will be the company drivers, but they will soon find that the very company they spent time, driving hard, working their butts off for, is now going to lower their PAY......and it will happen, where will everyone go? Screaming to Congress? By that time, it's too late. Right now, your thinking about Chicken Little...."the sky is falling, the sky is falling......" hehehe I hope that soon, people will start to post how this effected them..... Good luck to us all.....we will need it.
#38
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
you could always take a pay cut........
HEHEHEHEHE HEHEHEHEHEHEHE You, too, will feel the effects...not much pay involved in recruiting from Mexico.... :twisted: Unless your company refuses to hire the Mexican National drivers...... :wink: LOL
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#39
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Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
I can see Sheepdancer not caring cause he's a recruiter and as with most things in life, people don't care until it affects them.
Do you know what our job is? To make the company a profit. Whether you are a driver or a recruiter, this is what we are paid to do. I guess I just realize the more profit the company makes the more money I make. The first thing I do when I come to work in the morning is look at the stock price. I tell myself, "what can I do today to help that price go up" Why? Because when I retire, that is the money I will be living off of. This should be the goal for anyone working in any industry.
#40
Originally Posted by NevadaJim
So, I guess all the hoopla about there being a shortage of drivers is just that...hoopla. If there really is a shortage of drivers then none of this will affect anyone. That's IF it even happens. You make it sound like outsourcing is something new. Where have you been the last 20 years? This is nothing new. And, forget about running to Congress or anyone else. They're the ones that started it and have to approve it.
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