[ale]

im against it. goes against everything the bible has taught for thousands of years.

[Night Rider]

Originally Posted by ale

goes against everything the bible has taught for thousands of years.

PROVE IT!!! Show me where it says anything in your precious bible about same sex anything.

[ronnieman49]

I think this is going to get UGLY!!! :shock:

Ronnieman Wrote

I think this is going to get UGLY!!!

Not if all us NON-ANTAGONISTIC poster's can defuse it before it starts!

[Malaki86]

Myself - I don't care who gets married to who. If two people are in love (no matter what their sex), let them enjoy it.

I do want to ask something here. Marriage is a union of two people under the eyes of God (or Budha, Ala, etc...). Why is it that the decision of who can be married is goverened by the local/state/federal authorities? Wouldn't this be covered under "seperation of church and state".

Also, do aetheisists (sp) marry? If so, why? It certainly wouldn't be under God, would it?

Note: just to clarify things, I am not homosexual nor aetheist. I just think that people should be allowed to do things that make them happy, as long as it does not cause injury to others.

[Rob_0126]

Originally Posted by Night Rider

PROVE IT!!! Show me where it says anything in your precious bible about same sex anything.

Adam & Eve. Next question.

[Redd202]

Originally Posted by Malaki86

Myself - I don't care who gets married to who. If two people are in love (no matter what their sex), let them enjoy it..............I just think that people should be allowed to do things that make them happy, as long as it does not cause injury to others.

What a novel idea - too bad more people don't think like you.

[Redd202]

Originally Posted by Rob_0126

Adam & Eve. Next question.

I believe Night Rider was asking where the bible said something about SAME SEX ANYTHING. FYI, Adam and Eve are not of the same sex.

Next excuse?

[Rob_0126]

Originally Posted by The Bible

Genesis 19:1: And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

The angels looked like men, that came to Lot's door.

Originally Posted by The Bible

Genesis 19:5: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

The people of lot were calling for the men(angels) that came into their house, to be with them(have sex).

Originally Posted by The Bible

Genesis 19:8: Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Lot was willing to give to the men of Lot, his daughters, over giving them the men(the angels) he had under his protection.

Originally Posted by The Bible

Genesis 19:13: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.

The Lord sent those angels to destroy Sodom & Gomorrah. The cry of the people being sodomized was great in the face of the Lord.

Originally Posted by The Bible

Genesis 19:15: And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

The wickedness of their sins was so great in that city that the influence would have consumed Lot and his family if they stayed any longer. (Who knew? God did. He transends time and space; He made it all. )

Originally Posted by The Bible

Genesis 19:24: Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Genesis 19:25: And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

The Lord leveled this place.

I hope this helps to clarify what I meant, and what the bible says on this issue. Sin is sin, no matter what form it is in.
But according to this, the Lord had enough of this; men with men was the last straw.(A desecretion of his most sacred union between a man and woman)

[Redd202]

"How did the lesson of Sodom become so identified with homosexual acts that the very word for one of those acts became Sodomy? The answer is in the Hebrew word: y?dh?.


Y?dh? has two meanings: "to know" and "engage in coitus." Of 943 times y?dh? is used in the Old Testament, only ten times is it used to mean sexual intercourse, and all of these are heterosexual coitus. The Old Testament uses the word sh?khabh to mean homosexual acts and bestiality.


Lot was a resident alien in Sodom. When Lot invited strangers into his home, the townspeople approached Lot and demanded "Bring them out unto us, that we may know them (y?dh?)." Judging from the biblical references we've just discussed, it seems the townspeople were asking to get to know the credentials and intentions of strangers in their city.


The absolute sacredness of a guest was a principle well known to Lot. Lot also understood the way crowds give in to hostile acts against outsiders (see Judges 19:1- 21:25 for a similar tale of hostility to strangers.) So he protected his guests and refused to hand them over to the crowd. When the crowd insisted, he offered his two daughters as the most expedient diversion for a hostile situation [footnote 2].


For 2,000 years, until the last century before Christ, Israel understood the lesson of Sodom to be one of pride and hospitality."