How do you ask officially without getting fired?
#11
04-13-2008, 03:11 AM
Originally Posted by thebaldeagle655
Not really sure where you are going with this, you might want to ask your actual question instead of beating around the bush.
A GPS is not an On Board Recording Device as defined by FMCSA in any shape form or fashion although the OBRD's do have GPS in them. YES, they do have the legal right to monitor where you are, how fast you are driving, how long you are driving, or anything else a gps can show and to match it to the logs you turn in. Many companies use Qualcom and the Qualcom log can and is used by DOT in their audits to confirm logs. (b)(1) Automatic on board recording devices shall produce, upon demand, a driver's hours of service chart, electronic display, or printout showing the time and sequence of duty status changes including the drivers' starting time at the beginning of each day. (b)(2) The device shall provide a means whereby authorized Federal, State, or local officials can immediately check the status of a driver's hours of service. This information may be used in conjunction with handwritten or printed records of duty status, for the previous 7 days. (i) Performance of recorders. (i)(4) The automatic on-board recording device warns the driver visually and/or audibly that the device has ceased to function. It is the "SNITCH BOX" I have a problem with. If they start handing out tickets and shorting my pay. :roll:
#12
04-13-2008, 04:18 AM
Originally Posted by Fozzy
 Federal Legislation (H.R. 4908 and S. 2898) requires employers to notify all new employees when they are hired as to the electronic monitoring policy of the company. his notice must be renewed annually and when there is a change in the company policy. The notification must be concise as to the type, frequency, method and use of the monitoring. Employees have the right to sue their employers for a violation and can collect damages per employee and per incident.
#13
04-13-2008, 05:02 AM
Re: How do you ask officially without getting fired?
Originally Posted by got mud?
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
395.15 Auto on board recording device?
After reading a question by "belpre122" http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=33359 And referencing my hand book and looking online any in cab GPS used to track location and "HOS" is illegal. Unless that GPS was used for directions. With that being siad how do you ask officially without putting a noose around your neck? I thought my my dispatcher had a nervous condition or something.... His eye is constantly twitching.
#14
04-13-2008, 06:55 AM
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
Originally Posted by Fozzy
Federal Legislation (H.R. 4908 and S. 2898) requires employers to notify all new employees when they are hired as to the electronic monitoring policy of the company. his notice must be renewed annually and when there is a change in the company policy. The notification must be concise as to the type, frequency, method and use of the monitoring. Employees have the right to sue their employers for a violation and can collect damages per employee and per incident.
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#15
04-15-2008, 09:52 AM
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395.15 has zero to do with GPS tracking systems. It merely outlines all the parameters that have to be met for a company to be able to use "electronic logbooks" instead of paper ones. Thats all. Unless you work for Werner or one of the ones that use them....its a non-issue.
As far as tracking the truck via GPS.....most carriers do it. Its an automatic thing. Our trucks are pinged about every 45 minutes or so. Its their right to do so...they own the truck trailer and the freight.
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#16
04-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
(H.R. 4908 and S. 2898) requires employers to notify all new employees when they are hired as to the electronic monitoring policy of the company. his notice must be renewed annually and when there is a change in the company policy. The notification must be concise as to the type, frequency, method and use of the monitoring. Employees have the right to sue their employers for a violation and can collect damages per employee and per incident.
I might also add this bill H.R. 4908 died along with the Senate S. 2898. These two bills were introduced in 2000. And as any bill that does not pass the two chambers are cleared from the books. See: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h106-4908 kc0iv
#17
04-17-2008, 02:55 AM
How do you ask officially without getting fired?
Forget what I belive to be wrong.
How do you ask officially without getting fired????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????
#18
04-17-2008, 04:19 AM
What EXACTLY are you wanting to ask them about? GPS tracking, automatic electronic logbooks (like werner uses), etc?
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#19
04-17-2008, 04:26 AM
Re: How do you ask officially without getting fired?
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
Forget what I belive to be wrong.
How do you ask officially without getting fired????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? What you have said so far I don't see where the company is doing anything illegal. kc0iv
#20
04-17-2008, 05:30 AM
Re: How do you ask officially without getting fired?
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Originally Posted by Manicmechnic
Forget what I belive to be wrong.
How do you ask officially without getting fired????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? What you have said so far I don't see where the company is doing anything illegal. kc0iv I am looking for a official responce. As I siad before I don't have a problem with XATA, Qualcom or other that comply to 395.15 It is the "SNITCH BOX" I have a problem with. "If" they start handing out tickets and shorting my pay. I have read many times when people were shorted pay and writen up. It is not a perfect world things happen. [Good example] = tracking freezes in CT and then decides to work in NJ that trip took you 45 minuts and 36 miles you get paid for. And wonder why you where shorted pay? :roll: And don't be suprized when you are fired becuase you allegaly up the speed. |
