[Double L]

I think Cali is gonna lose alot of freight with this no idling bullshit!

[trans3]

what about those fruitcakes from CRASH and PATT? Aren't they saying anything about the loss of a "quality sleep or resting environment" for the drivers? I see a lot of bad things happening out there because of this.

[mdgardner963]

[quote="kc0iv"]

Originally Posted by mdgardner963

Statewide Regulation Now Limits Diesel-Fueled
Commercial Motor Vehicle Idling
The Law
On or after February 1, 2005, the driver of any vehicle subject to this section:
(1) shall not idle the vehicle’s primary diesel engine for greater than 5
minutes at any location (please see “When can I idle?”)
(2) shall not idle a diesel-fueled auxiliary power system (APS) for more than 5
minutes to power a heater, air conditioner, or any ancillary equipment on the
vehicle if you have a sleeper berth and you’re within 100 feet of a restricted
area (homes and schools)
Who’s affected by the new regulation?
Operators of diesel-fueled commercial motor vehicles that weigh more than 10,000 pounds
operating in California, regardless of the state or country in which the vehicles are registered.
What are the penalties for non-compliance?
The driver of the vehicle is subject to a minimum civil penalty of $100 and to criminal penalties as
specified in the Health and Safety Code.
When can I idle?
Idling is allowed under these circumstances:
· A bus idling for up to 10 minutes prior to passenger boarding, or when passengers are onboard
· Idling of the main engine during sleeping or resting in a sleeper berth beyond 100 feet from any
restricted area (homes and schools)
· Idling when the vehicle must remain motionless due to traffic conditions
· Idling when the vehicle is queuing that at all times is beyond 100 feet from any restricted area
(homes and schools)
· Idling to verify safe operating condition
· Idling is mandatory for testing, servicing (cleaning of commercial vehicles/trucks/buses is not
considered servicing), repairing, or diagnostic purposes
· Idling when positioning or providing power for equipment that is performing work
· Idling when operating defrosters, heaters, air conditioners, or other equipment to prevent a safety
or health emergency
· Idling by authorized emergency vehicles
· Idling of military tactical vehicles during periods of training
· See regulation for details *
*REGULATION
For the text of the regulation, visit http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/idling/regtext.htm

I found this on the same page... now i am so confused. :evil:

[color=green]Look at the dates. The one you quoted was the law in February 1, 2005. The one I quoted became effective on JANUARY 1, 2008.

I went back and got that from the 2008 revisions and when i asked the communist there this what i got for them..

[gmh]

Originally Posted by Double L

I think Cali is gonna lose alot of freight with this no idling bullshit!

They may lose some O/O drivers, but companies in Cali will just wind up dealing with shippers that force dispatch. Maybe some company will give one more penny per mile in the state.

[Bandit102]

Well, everyone else can have California. Have you seen the rates out of there lately? Horrible. And there is certainly not an abundance of loads out there anyway. I'll be damned if I'm gonna haul out there for $1.50 and have to suffer in the summer or winter temps. Not this guy.
There are much better places to go with much higher speed limits and much better traffic.

[MtFoxx]

Originally Posted by Double L

I think Cali is gonna lose alot of freight with this no idling bullshit!

Ur right and did U know that Cali hasn't fallen in to the ocean because it sucks. I just moved my family to Tennessee to escape the BS there.

I thought it would improve under a (R) Gov. Nope it's getting worse. Duncan Hunter is pushing for a limit on truck traffic now. He wants to specify the "roads of approved travel" for semi commerce. WTF Are they going to lump it in now?

Or, are they going to take us back to train loads only killing the trucker income?

[mdgardner963]

Originally Posted by MtFoxx

Ur right and did U know that Cali hasn't fallen in to the ocean because it sucks. I just moved my family to Tennessee to escape the BS there.

I thought it would improve under a (R) Gov. Nope it's getting worse. Duncan Hunter is pushing for a limit on truck traffic now. He wants to specify the "roads of approved travel" for semi commerce. WTF Are they going to lump it in now?

Or, are they going to take us back to train loads only killing the trucker income?

Do yu really think the 3rd largest econmy cares about you working here?? NO! But the politcal people That is how you change this dum law make the poltications scared. Big DOg Kicks