Getting hours back
#11
11-19-2006, 07:38 AM
Originally Posted by Doogle
Lets say he worked this:
Day 1: 8 hours-70=62 Day 2: 8 hours-62=54 Day 3: 8 hours-54=46 Day 4: 8 hours-46=38 Day 5: 8 hours-38=30 Day 6: 8 hours-30=22 Day 7: 10 hours-22=12 Day 8: 10 hours-12=2 Now when he reaches the nineth day should it look like this Day9: 10-12=2 If so, how do you keep from DOT from wanting to know how you got those extra 8 hours.
I gues what I am saying is that do you just add the 8 hours onto the 2 left for the nineth day or do you have to redo your log.
One thing to note is that if you do a 34 hour reset, then you should just record 0 for the prior 7 days, even if he had hours that he worked. 34 hour resets zero out everything.
#12
11-19-2006, 09:01 AM
You are required to have the prior 8 days logs in your posession. DOT can (and will) go back and look at the prior days. All they have to do is look at YESTERDAY'S recap, and it will show the hours that are dropping off for today.
k)(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.
#13
11-19-2006, 09:11 AM
Originally Posted by lonewolf
k)(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.
#14
11-19-2006, 09:43 AM
Originally Posted by madii'swife
Originally Posted by lonewolf
k)(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.
#15
11-19-2006, 10:51 AM
Lets say he worked this:
Day 1: 8 hours-70=62 Day 2: 8 hours-62=54 Day 3: 8 hours-54=46 Day 4: 8 hours-46=38 Day 5: 8 hours-38=30 Day 6: 8 hours-30=22 Day 7: 10 hours-22=12 Day 8: 10 hours-12=2 Day 1: 8 hour = 8 Day 2: 8 hours = 8 + 8 = 16 Day 3: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 = 24 Day 4: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 32 Day 5: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 40 Day 6: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 48 Day 7: 10 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 = 58 Day 8: 10 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 = 68 Day 9: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 + 8 = 68 Day 10: 5 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 + 8 + 5 = 65 Day 11: 10 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 + 8 + 5 + 10 = 67 Day 12: 0 hours has 34 hours off-duty = 0 Day 13: 12 hours = 0 + 12 = 12 The hours available on day 8 are calculated by adding the hours on duty for the 7 previous days. If the hours on duty for the seven previous day's equals 68 hours the driver has 2 hour they can use day 8. 70 hours in 8 consecutive days 60 hours in 7 consecutive days The driver cannot drive after accumulating 60 hours in seven days or 70 hours in eight consecutive days. Be safe.
#17
11-19-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by lonewolf
no what rev said was "prior" 8 days plus current,which would be 9 days of logs,we are only required to have 8 days total,7 prior and the current day we are working on,i was just correcting his obvious typo :P
#18
11-19-2006, 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by lonewolf
no what rev said was "prior" 8 days plus current,which would be 9 days of logs,we are only required to have 8 days total,7 prior and the current day we are working on,i was just correcting his obvious typo :P
Nice "dodge!" :wink:
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#19
11-21-2006, 06:36 AM
Uturn said:
At the end of today add up all hours worked from today back 8 days. Subtract from 70 and that will give you the hours available for tomorrow.
The 9th day back will be the amount of hours you will gain for tomorrow when added to any hours left over at the end of today. Doogle: Your example is wrong on line 8. Other examples and info given is mostly correct, but somewhat confusing to newbies. Using words like "line 1" doesn't adequately indicate what figure you are to "drop off." I use a J.J.Keller logbook, and there ARE NO lines 1-7 on the individual pages. So.... assuming we are talking about the recap found on the inside cover of the book, let's start from scratch. There are 31 numbered lines on this recap form for a reason. If the first day you work this month is the 11th. START there. But... let's assume for this example that you start work on the 1st of the month, and just came off a 34 hour reset. I'm going to show/explain to you a simple matrix that will keep you from having to add up a bunch of numbers all the time. I wish I knew how to use my "draw" program so that I could show it to you, but essentially it goes like this: From far left column (which is today's hours and I will call column "T" ) to the far right (column C) to the top left (column T(n) where (n) is the EIGHTH day back,) to the bottom left and one column over (which is column "A") to one more over which is column "B." Now.. asuming the 34 hour reset and starting on day 1 of the month, the totals for A and C will be identical for the first 7 days, and column B will be 70 minus A. NOW... on the 8th day, do THIS: Enter today's hours worked (lines 3 & 4 from log SHEET) in column T. Add T to previous day's A but skip over and enter in column C. Go to top left and subtract T(n) ... day 1 in this example... from C and enter in today's column A. Subtract A from 70 and enter in column B. NOW... draw a diagonal line through the box for T(n)! On day 9.... enter today's hours in T, add to previous A, skip over to C and enter that total. From THAT total (C) subtract T(n) at top left [which will be the second day worked, or the first box without a strikeout through it, and enter that total in today's column A. Subtract THAT amount from 70, and enter in today's column B. T(n) will always be the first of the previous seven days worked NOT COUNTING today. Don't forget to strike through it after subtracting it from C. Confused?? Try it... it will make sense. And it works. Remember: T = todays hours worked. T + A = C C - T(n) = A 70 - A = B In case your recap is NOT labeled like Keller's.... T = today's hours worked. A = Total for last 7 days. B = Hours available for tomorrow. C = Total hours worked last 8 days. I posted this because Doogle asked for help. I believe this is a simple matrix that works well and "becomes" easy to follow. Just make sure you don't get confused and start subtracting the wrong figures. Follow the steps. I hope this helps! Now, Rev... go ahead and put me down or argue with me! I'm sure you'll find something wrong with it! :roll: Hobo
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#20
11-21-2006, 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
I hope this helps! Now, Rev... go ahead and put me down or argue with me! I'm sure you'll find something wrong with it! :roll:
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