[rank]

CMV drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two.

Assuming I am out of driving hours, this means I cannot: eat supper for 1, sleep 8, eat breakfast for 1?

i.e the 10 hours must be 2-8 or 8-2, not 1-8-1?

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by rank

Assuming I am out of driving hours, this means I cannot: eat supper for 1, sleep 8, eat breakfast for 1?

i.e the 10 hours must be 2-8 or 8-2, not 1-8-1?

That depends - are you taking all 10 hours at once? If so, then you can switch between off duty and sleeper berth as much as you want, as long as you do not go on duty at any time during the 10 hours.

What you are quoting above is in relation to the "split sleeper berth provision". The only time the 8-2 or 2-8 applies is if you are splitting your sleeper berth time into 2 periods, with on duty or driving time between them.

[mike3fan]

just do all your eating in the sleeper then you can just log 10 hrs straight in the sleeper like us super truckers.
Just kidding any combination of 10hrs on lines 1 and 2 will do,sleeper berth is a place not an activity.

[rank]

The only time the 8-2 or 2-8 applies is if you are splitting your sleeper berth time into 2 periods, with on duty or driving time between them.

Interesting. I didn't realize the 10 hours needn't be consecutive. So I can drive 11, sleep 8, drive again then sleep 2?

Can someone tell me in a nutshell how the old way worked?

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by SteveBooth

Can someone tell me in a nutshell how the old way worked?

The old way, the only difference was you could split your sleeper berth into any combination of 2 periods, as long as they were both more than 2 hours. For example, a team could drive 5, sleep 5, drive 5 etc.

The old-old way, you could do essentially the same thing, except you only had to accumulate 8 hours total.

And there was no 14 hour clock, so off duty time was off duty time.

That sounds a lot better to me than it is now. I think it would encourage people to take naps or whatever instead of pushing themselves when they are tired. It also seems a lot more simple to understand.

[mike3fan]

Originally Posted by SteveBooth

That sounds a lot better to me than it is now. I think it would encourage people to take naps or whatever instead of pushing themselves when they are tired. It also seems a lot more simple to understand.

That is why we don't like it,it penalizes you for taking a nap

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by SteveBooth

That sounds a lot better to me than it is now. I think it would encourage people to take naps or whatever instead of pushing themselves when they are tired. It also seems a lot more simple to understand.

It was, but the special interest groups like PATT and ATA didn't like it.

You know the old adage - If it ain't broke, don't fix it - well, they don't understand that.

[mike3fan]

I think alot of drivers were in favor of change too,I remember everyone saying how outdated the rules were and it needed to be changed,but just remember what some have said before becareful what you wish for you may just get it.

I think the 34 hr reset is good,the 11 hr driving good and also I can live with 10hr off duty,but come on do not pigeon hole me into making it all work in a 14 hour period.