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#11
11-06-2006, 11:43 AM
Yes Fozzy I agree! The only thing I was saying is child molesters and you know murder of innocent people should be saved for Bubba (Bubba needs a break sometime).
Yeah running illegal is pretty much the same as a drunk driver I TOTALLY AGREE. They actually say when you are tired you will drive like a drunk. I don't want to be around Bubba or well what do you call the female that takes advantage of the girl? Is there such a thing?
#12
11-06-2006, 12:25 PM
Originally Posted by Dawn
I never said if you are off duty this counts as sleeper time" I said you CAN NOT LOG OFF DUTY TIME WHILE BEING AT A CUSTOMER" You can be in the SLEEPER!
The "stupid DOT" regs say otherwise:
§395.2 Definitions.
On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On duty time shall include: (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
Question 2: What conditions must be met for a CMV driver to record meal and other routine stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time?
Guidance: 1. The driver must have been relieved of all duty and responsibility for the care and custody of the vehicle, its accessories, and any cargo or passengers it may be carrying. 2. The duration of the driver's relief from duty must be a finite period of time which is of sufficient duration to ensure that the accumulated fatigue resulting from operating a CMV will be significantly reduced. 4. During the stop, and for the duration of the stop, the driver must be at liberty to pursue activities of his/her own choosing and to leave the premises where the vehicle is situated. Perhaps if you spent a little more time READING the "stupid" regs that you are trying to save us from, then you might not give out such mis-information. I will continue to call you out on this stuff, as long as you keep posting that dribble.
#13
11-06-2006, 02:46 PM
unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
"yeah maybe you should read the Q&A to that one in the FEDERAL DOT BOOK" if I had it here I would send it to you,but I will be glad for you to do the search for me! lmao! So log it all on line 4, waste your money! I really don't care,NOT MY MONEY YOU ARE WASTING, Oh wait you are not even a TRUCK DRIVER! Question 2: What conditions must be met for a CMV driver to record meal and other routine stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time? Guidance: 1. The driver must have been relieved of all duty and responsibility for the care and custody of the vehicle, its accessories, and any cargo or passengers it may be carrying. 2. The duration of the driver's relief from duty must be a finite period of time which is of sufficient duration to ensure that the accumulated fatigue resulting from operating a CMV will be significantly reduced. 4. During the stop, and for the duration of the stop, the driver must be at liberty to pursue activities of his/her own choosing and to leave the premises where the vehicle is situated. This is simple the company you work for should give you a card that allows all the above, oh sorry my company does!
#14
11-06-2006, 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Dawn
"yeah maybe you should read the Q&A to that one in the FEDERAL DOT BOOK" if I had it here I would send it to you,but I will be glad for you to do the search for me!
lmao! So log it all on line 4, waste your money! I really don't care,NOT MY MONEY YOU ARE WASTING, Oh wait you are not even a TRUCK DRIVER!
Question 11: Must nontransportation-related work for a motor carrier be recorded as on-duty time?
Guidance: Yes. All work for a motor carrier, whether compensated or not, must be recorded as on-duty time. The term "work" as used in the definition of "on-duty time" in §395.2 of the FMCSRs is not limited to driving or other nontransportation-related employment. And yes - I am a driver, and have proven this. My credentials are known here.
This is simple the company you work for should give you a card that allows all the above, oh sorry my company does!
Question 3: A driver has been given written permission by his/her employer to record meal and other routine stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time. Is the driver required to record such time as off-duty, or is it the driver's decision whether such time is recorded as off-duty?
Guidance: It is the employer's choice whether the driver shall record stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time. However, employers may permit drivers to make the decision as to how the time will be recorded.
#15
11-06-2006, 05:23 PM
I just wonder why we're getting all of this "Information" when nobody asked for it. And from a Non-Driver no less.
oh sorry my company does! I'm SURE the Card "Your" company gives is a card relieving the driver for 1 hour for Lunch.
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#16
11-07-2006, 02:14 AM
Originally Posted by yoopr
I just wonder why we're getting all of this "Information" when nobody asked for it. And from a Non-Driver no less.
oh sorry my company does! I'm SURE the Card "Your" company gives is a card relieving the driver for 1 hour for Lunch. I've driven for three companies and have been a O/O and I've never had such a card. Nor have I been able to find anything in the regs that addresses a card being required. kc0iv
#17
11-07-2006, 03:58 AM
Originally Posted by kc0iv
I've driven for three companies and have been a O/O and I've never had such a card.
Nor have I been able to find anything in the regs that addresses a card being required. kc0iv
#18
11-07-2006, 04:28 AM
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The closest thing in the "regs" comes from the Interpretation for Part 395: Hours of Service of Drivers which is found HERE
Question 2: What conditions must be met for a CMV driver to record meal and other routine stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time?
Guidance: 1. The driver must have been relieved of all duty and responsibility for the care and custody of the vehicle, its accessories, and any cargo or passengers it may be carrying. 2. The duration of the driver's relief from duty must be a finite period of time which is of sufficient duration to ensure that the accumulated fatigue resulting from operating a CMV will be significantly reduced. 3. If the driver has been relieved from duty, as noted in (1) above, the duration of the relief from duty must have been made known to the driver prior to the driver's departure in written instructions from the employer. There are no record retention requirements for these instructions on board a vehicle or at a motor carrier's principal place of business. 4. During the stop, and for the duration of the stop, the driver must be at liberty to pursue activities of his/her own choosing and to leave the premises where the vehicle is situated.
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#19
11-07-2006, 04:58 AM
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Originally Posted by yoopr
I just wonder why we're getting all of this "Information" when nobody asked for it. And from a Non-Driver no less.
oh sorry my company does! I'm SURE the Card "Your" company gives is a card relieving the driver for 1 hour for Lunch. I've driven for three companies and have been a O/O and I've never had such a card. Nor have I been able to find anything in the regs that addresses a card being required. kc0iv Don't really see the reason for them doing so but they do.
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