Loading/Unloading (one more for the night)
#12
10-31-2006, 11:06 PM
I don't know what being on private property has to do with whether something must be logged or not. If you are driving or on the dock, it is either on-duty not driving, or driving. I don't recall reading anything about the private property issue in the regs. Perhaps you could cite the regulations on this for us.
#13
10-31-2006, 11:16 PM
Let's put a slight twist on the Sleeper/Off-Duty logging.
Ok - you pull into a shipper/receiver. You go to the office he tells you to pull into dock 3, shut the truck down, chock the wheels and come inside. Log 15 mins On Duty Not Driving The shipper/receiver requires that you sit in the drivers lounge while they unload you. After a nice quick unload of 6 hours, they hand you your signed paperwork and that you can go. Maybe log 15 mins On Duty Not Driving Now - the question - do you log the 6hrs Off Duty or Sleeper Berth? 1 - You were not doing anything regarding the load, unless you consider flipping between Jerry Springer and whatever else crap is on tv while you sat there working 2 - You were not in the sleeper berth So, you log it off duty Is that a 'red flag' - NO
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#14
10-31-2006, 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Dawn
Uturn: Backing up can be logged as line 4, because you are on private property. Which saves YOUR driving hours.
 Now as to the discuss at hand. You have attempted to read rules and regs. the problem is you have failed to read them correctly. Anytime you are released from duty you can log it as line 1. Period. Now as to how long you show - Line 4 - On Duty/ Not Driving the rules are quite clear. You log it like it happened. As you do with any other actions. A little advice Dawn to be effective in your statement(s) is back it by chapter and verse. kc0iv
#15
11-01-2006, 03:15 AM
If being on private property is the rule then I sure wasted a lot of time driving on the Kansas turnpike. Because the Kansas turnpike is private property
Well there ya go-A Brand new Angle I've never heard before and I thought I knew them all :P Get back to us and let us know how that works LOL
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#16
11-01-2006, 04:36 AM
Originally Posted by Dawn
When under a load you are always lines 2,3 or 4, except meal breaks or if the company relieves you of responsibilty for the equipment. Most company's give you a card allowing you to log meal, shower, laundry etc as off duty. : Wrong.......many drivers recieve their loads and go home and deliver in the morning. I don't have a card stating I can go home after I have loaded my truck.
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#17
11-01-2006, 04:38 AM
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From 395.2
Driving time means all time spent at the driving controls of a commercial motor vehicle in operation.
On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On duty time shall include:
(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier; (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time; (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time; (4) All time, other than driving time, in or upon any commercial motor vehicle except time spent resting in a sleeper berth; (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded; (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle; (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, in order to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-accident, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier. (8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of a motor carrier; and (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
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#18
11-01-2006, 05:42 PM
I split my sleeper birth ALL the time. When I load a customer's house, I go into the sleeper an hour and a half into the load, and come out of the sleeper for the last hour.
It only takes me 15 minutes to fuel too 8) Save up the hours, cuz a restart could be the worst thing under load.
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#19
11-07-2006, 05:16 AM
Anything under 15 minutes should be FLAGGED.
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#20
11-07-2006, 05:53 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Anything under 15 minutes should be FLAGGED.
Question 1: How should a change of duty status for a short period of time be shown on the driver's record of duty status?
Guidance: Short periods of time (less than 15 minutes) may be identified by drawing a line from the appropriate on-duty (not driving) or driving line to the remarks section and entering the amount of time, such as "6 minutes," and the geographic location of the duty status change. |
