[rognre]

i am lookling to buy a truck and sign on with either foward air or landstar,here is my question if i have $25000 to spend on a truck should i buy one i can pay for or buy a better truck and use the 25000 as down payment,either way i will have about 7500 left in bank to get started,is this enough?

[BanditsCousin]

Before I can start answering your question, I'd need to know your current experience/resume and a few details. Everyone wants to buy a truck and get rich, or live well- few do it :wink:

[jrhbull]

How come when someone asks questions about starting up as a o/o poeple always tell them that most never make it?? It seems theres plenty of freight avaliable?? Maybe im missing something??

[coastie]

Originally Posted by jrhbull

How come when someone asks questions about starting up as a o/o poeple always tell them that most never make it?? It seems theres plenty of freight avaliable?? Maybe im missing something??

Well I had not seen anyone say anyone will not make it on this thread. But I know the feeling...

Any business you go into is a Big Risk. When you go into a business you need to know the business. Most say they will not make it is to those who just getting the CDL's But some of them do makes it. Cause they sit down and research out all the facts.

Just guessing most who does not make it as an O/O goes in without a Business Plan.

1. They Do not plan for the worst, and when it happens, they are left out in the cold. (Break Down , Illness)

2. Do not Plan for increase in Operation Cost, Such as Fuel price Increase. (Not being Flexible)

3. Do not have a Cost of Operations set, nor a Budget set. (Know HOw much it cost to run your Truck, Set Limits to control Spending)

4. To busy being a BillyBig Rig, and Over spends. (Buying the Biggest badest Truck that cost more than they make),

5. Leases onto a Company and is to Blind to see they are not making money. (Cost you 90 cents to move the truck and your hauling for 85.)

6. They accept any load offered, Not having a minum price they haul for, or they just haul CHEAP Freight.

That is what I am seeing, and I am sure there is more reasons.

[jrhbull]

I see.That all makes sense thanks , for the info. I think there is plenty of opportunity if ya play right

[pepe4158]

Your leasing on with someone....hmmm my experience with watching the lease owners in the companies I was with was it was a matter of politics whether you will make it or not, if the dispatchers like you , you do well $ wise, if you tick one off, get ready to starve.

[GMAN]

Originally Posted by rognre

i am lookling to buy a truck and sign on with either foward air or landstar,here is my question if i have $25000 to spend on a truck should i buy one i can pay for or buy a better truck and use the 25000 as down payment,either way i will have about 7500 left in bank to get started,is this enough?

I would opt for paying cash. You can find a good truck for that amount of money or less. I would also suggest looking at carrier's who pay percentage rather than mileage. You didn't mention your level of experience in your post. Most of the better carrier's will require 1-2 years experience. Some will require more. Unless you have a major breakdown, such as an engine, $7,500 should get you started and provide a cushion, if you are going to lease to a carrier.

[rognre]

been driving since 1994,currently i am working for a local/ regional company in st louis,been there since 1996.run out 200-400 mi then return,usaully hauling containers or air frieght.sometimes we run line hauls for forward air.driving since 1994 no wrecks,tickets,anything else.

[rognre]

gman what would be your limit to mileage on a truck if you were buying it.

[rank]

either way i will have about 7500 left in bank to get started

I would like to see a little more to be safe, but it depends on the year of the truck too. We bought at '98 T800 in December and we've already spent about $10,000 getting it right. Turbo, cylinder head, compressor, mains and rods.....and this truck looked like it was in show room condition.

Originally Posted by rognre

gman what would be your limit to mileage on a truck if you were buying it.

Well, I'm not Gman, but I would suggest that it depends on how many miles you plan to run. If you plan for a rebuild at a million and you drag vans around for 125,000 miles/year.....a 750,000 mile truck should buy you two years. But if you pull something more specialized, or do local stuff, you will likely run fewer miles meaning you can get more years before you rebuild.