[ohiomohawk]

Well I sort of enjoyed the home daily job but the company lost some GM lanes now I am now out of work. Now with GM going bankrupt they will probably loose a lot more. I spent about 4 months out of 17 months in lay off. It looks like I am staring at OTR again.

I met some good dock workers at GM and some a**holes. I met a guy who drove a forklift at GM making $75,000 a year. He would spend 15 minutes out of every hour outside at the picnic bench complaining. The plant he worked at closed in 2008.

I heard 14 plants and 21,000 jobs will be cut real soon.

[allan5oh]

Yup rumors are GM and Chrysler both will be taking the entire 3rd quarter off production-wise.

[scythe08]

75k for a fork lift position,,,no wonder they're bankrupt! Give me a break

[Syncrosonix]

i'll take that forklift operator's job and scrub the most vile toilets for 75k a year. :thumbsup:

[GMAN]

You can't pay those type of salaries and expect to stay competitive. These unions have made such unreasonable demands that they have basically put these two automakers out of business, or at least into bankruptcy. Hopefully, both will survive. While it may sound harsh, it would have been much better for the U.S. taxpayers if these companies were allowed to succeed or fail on their own. The unions are making out like bandits in these reorganizations. Of course, that is much of the reason they have had such difficulties. Another is the top heavy management they have had over the years. It is much like the federal government. Workers became complacent and unproductive. The forklift driver who makes $75,000/yr and complains should be out of a job. That is about 3 times what he was worth. The figure you mentioned probably doesn't include all the extra benefits he was getting. That will probably put him over $100,000/yr.:roll:

[Mpneypit]

^^^^ I agree they should of failed no nedd for the government giving them tax payers money. If they didnt know how to run theire companies well toooo bad for them they should fail i dont care how big they are.

[Windwalker]

Originally Posted by Mpneypit

^^^^ I agree they should of failed no nedd for the government giving them tax payers money. If they didnt know how to run theire companies well toooo bad for them they should fail i dont care how big they are.

Same goes for the banks, finance, and mortgage companies.

[Mackman]

Originally Posted by GMAN

You can't pay those type of salaries and expect to stay competitive. These unions have made such unreasonable demands that they have basically put these two automakers out of business, or at least into bankruptcy.

Not true one bit GMAN. On the news they said that only 10% of a cars price is going to pay labor. They also said that even if the workers were going to work for FREE GM would still had to go into bankruptcy. UAW had only a very little bit in making GM go Bankrupted. I do agree they may be over paid alittle.

I love it when people blame everything on the unions when union company's cant stay afloat. I know alot of UNION company's that make a killing and get bigger every year it seems like.


Gman it seems anyone who makes a good living to you is a fool or something. You think everyone should get paid 10/hr.

[Blacksheep]

Problem is they would all be doing fine if these stupid a sses in government would get the f out of the way and let these companies do there business without out all these crippling restrictions.
Just who's side is our government on ?

[geomon]

Originally Posted by Blacksheep

Problem is they would all be doing fine if these stupid a sses in government would get the f out of the way and let these companies do there business without out all these crippling restrictions.
Just who's side is our government on ?

Playing the devil's advocate here...look where lack of govt restrictions got us regarding the financial mess we're in and the lack of oversight with all the mortgage backed securities. Too much of either side is bad.