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DaveP · #11 04-13-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mackman

Them ships need some kind of guns on them. To stop this kind of BS before it starts.

Can't.

The UN says so.

ohiomohawk · #12 04-13-2009, 01:44 AM

I guess 2 of the pirates had their heads sticking out in the open trying to get fresh air and the other one was inside the boat in front of a window and 3 Navy Seal snipers took all 3 of them out simultaneously with one shot to the head!!

Syncrosonix · #13 04-13-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveP

Can't.

The UN says so.

EFF the united nations!

mike3fan · #14 04-13-2009, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveP

Can't.

The UN says so.

That's funny no mention of the UN in this article.

Owners debate arming ships against Somali pirates

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While the American government supports putting armed guards on ships as one of many preventative strategies, the British have been more reticent, expressing fears over possible court cases and the lack of clear, standard rules of engagement.

DaveP · #15 04-13-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mike3fan

That's funny no mention of the UN in this article.

Owners debate arming ships against Somali pirates

Sorry...

Heard it said by a ship owner (who previously paid ransom) when he was asked if he had considered carrying an armed security force along...

Midnight Flyer · #16 04-13-2009, 03:13 AM

My brother-in-law spent eight years in the US Navy and knew a few SEALS. They are bad-ass sumbitches and you DON'T wanna piss off the SEALS. Need a difficult job done? Just send in the SEALS!!

matcat · #17 04-13-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Flyer

My brother-in-law spent eight years in the US Navy and knew a few SEALS. They are bad-ass sumbitches and you DON'T wanna piss off the SEALS. Need a difficult job done? Just send in the SEALS!!

Lets see them haul cheap freight and profit, that is the toughest job I know!

Orangetxguy · #18 04-13-2009, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveP

All Obama did was FINALLY give permission to the guys that HAD to wait for it even though they already knew exactly what to do and could have dealt with this problem from the get go...

http://www.chinesemol.com/member/upl...8143347478.jpg

That there is the small version of what the pirates were holding Captain Phillips in. Even in the largest version, there isn't a lot of open space available, and the top does not come off. Those things are designed to ride extreme storms out, while maintaining water-tight status. They are also designed to self-right if rolled over by waves.

Snowman7 · #19 04-13-2009, 11:47 AM

Thats it Stan. There was no shot while they were sealed up inside the lifeboat. They had to wait for 3 different shooters to have a simultaneous shot in rolling seas. Even then you have to hope the fourth guy gives up without a fight or killing the hostage. IMO whoever gave the command to fire could easily have been on the hot seat today if it went wrong. Lets just be happy it turned out the way it did and applaud these guys for doing a very difficult job instead of criticizing how they did it. We were not there and we have no clue.

Edit: I just found out the fourth pirate was already aboard the USS Bainbridge negotiating the Captain's release.

Uturn2001 · #20 04-13-2009, 01:01 PM

Before praising Obama for his "order" you should stop and consider what that order really was.

He issued orders to use force when and only when the on site team determined the Capt Phillips life was in imminent danger. Other wise they were to continue negotiations.