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Old 01-20-2009, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
My ISX has a fuel filter on the outside of the frame, as well as one on the driver's side of the engine. Neither are hidden on the 379 Petes.
You're lucky..... But I was talking about KW T-600's, and I was just recounting my particular experience.... Beats me why KW didn't put a fuel water separator on the frame or firewall that was easily accessible..... Maybe it was how the company ordered them. Even my "cornbinder" has one of the firewall mounted easily reached and changed filters with its Cummins ISM (2 gerbils and 1 squirrel powered engine)....

I've always wondered...why they don't have some kind of auxiliary heat for the fuel water separator....like the mirrors?
 
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Windwalker
I don't know how your truck is equipped, but on mine, the fuel filter is located on the left side (I have a Detroit), about the back third of the engine. It is mounted to the frame rail, and has a clear top. Never had it appart, but it looks like it has a cartridge filter inside. Since I have never had any reason to look at how it comes apart, you'll have to look at that yourself. I think Gman may be right and the top may unscrew. Before you take it apart, you will want to drain enough fuel so that you won't have fuel all over the place when the top comes off. I believe that will be the whole clear plastic top.
Carry a small plastic gas container with you for just this situation. You can drain the fuel from it into the container and them unscrew the top, it's easiest with a fuel filter wrench and they do make some specifically for this type of top but any kind of the right size will work. Pull out the old one and pop in the new one. The plastic package with filter will have rubber o-rings in it to change that will seal the top on. Change it and be careful to not pinch the rings but to seat them properly. Put a little diesel on it to help it seat. Screw the top back on filling the filter up first then start the engine. Check the fuel level in the filter. You might have to shut off the truck and put some more fuel in it to fill it up. Check for air bubbles or a noise indicating that the filter is not sealed correctly and if it isnt then stop the truck and take the top off again and re-seat the o-ring.
A few small bubbles is normal, you are looking for big ones.
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Old 01-20-2009, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Skywalker
You're lucky..... But I was talking about KW T-600's, and I was just recounting my particular experience.... Beats me why KW didn't put a fuel water separator on the frame or firewall that was easily accessible..... Maybe it was how the company ordered them. Even my "cornbinder" has one of the firewall mounted easily reached and changed filters with its Cummins ISM (2 gerbils and 1 squirrel powered engine)....
Possibly because of the style of hood? The T600 has an awfully narrow hood.

I've always wondered...why they don't have some kind of auxiliary heat for the fuel water separator....like the mirrors?
Fuel filter heaters are an option available from the manufacturer, and I'm sure can be added after the fact.
 
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Originally Posted by Skywalker
You're lucky..... But I was talking about KW T-600's, and I was just recounting my particular experience.... Beats me why KW didn't put a fuel water separator on the frame or firewall that was easily accessible..... Maybe it was how the company ordered them. Even my "cornbinder" has one of the firewall mounted easily reached and changed filters with its Cummins ISM (2 gerbils and 1 squirrel powered engine)....

I've always wondered...why they don't have some kind of auxiliary heat for the fuel water separator....like the mirrors?
Wow...CFI used to use Cummins motors? Sheesh...wish I had one of those! Most of our trucks nowadays have C15s........:cry:
 
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Originally Posted by Windwalker
I don't know how your truck is equipped, but on mine, the fuel filter is located on the left side (I have a Detroit), about the back third of the engine. It is mounted to the frame rail, and has a clear top. Never had it appart, but it looks like it has a cartridge filter inside. Since I have never had any reason to look at how it comes apart, you'll have to look at that yourself. I think Gman may be right and the top may unscrew. Before you take it apart, you will want to drain enough fuel so that you won't have fuel all over the place when the top comes off. I believe that will be the whole clear plastic top.

Thanks for the guidance WW and the rest of y'all.

I now have a spare on board. I was pretty sure that there were a number of folks on here that were worried sick that belpre might experience mechanical difficulties at 3AM on some old country road, and freeze his arse off for quite a while until a service truck arrived. Your concern is much appreciated! :lol:

 
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:35 PM
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When the weather is going to be cold, I would suggest getting a few red bottles of 911 additive, and on your last fueling before putting it to bed, add it to each tank while you're pouring the fuel in so that it mixes in. It'll help with the starting after the engine has been sitting, and keep you going better till the engine warms everything up. Might keep you from changing a filter and getting frostbite in your fingers.
 
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How well does the Howes stuff work? That's what I most commonly see at Pilots, and is what I have in my side box right now...is there anything you guys would recommend over that?
 
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:28 PM
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How well does the Howes stuff work? That's what I most commonly see at Pilots, and is what I have in my side box right now...is there anything you guys would recommend over that?
As I understand it, Howes is a good product. The red bottle is sort of between an anti-gel and Melt-down. A couple of the companies I drove for up in WI would issue the red bottles to the drivers to use. They said it works better than Howes. I believe it works to lower temps than Howes.
 
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Or toss all that additive garbage in the... garbage where it belongs...

Run straight #1 at these temps. You won't have a problem until at least -40, or even colder. I've never ran any additives and I've never had any problems.

I wonder how many of those trucks actually had water problems. I still think there's more water problems then wax problems.

Also I doubt alcohol will do much of anything unless you really mix it good. Water is heavier then diesel, and alcohol is lighter then both.
 
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Ah, but Allan...where do I get #1 diesel?

I have never seen it anywhere I've ever fueled at...who down here sells it?

And I do NOT do Canada!!!
 

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