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Old 09-19-2008, 11:17 PM
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Default ***Werner Paperless Log System***

I have some ?'s to ask if any Werner driver knows and can tell me how everything works that would be nice. Also if you have any other input on the paperless log system.

I have used the qualcomm before and done log books. How does the paperless log system work in detail.

What do you do ? wait for load to come on qualcomm and take it and do your pretrip and start running the truck and it's all done automatic on the qualcomm computer system.

If you have to stop at a rest stop/truck stop does it automatic put you in a not driving/not working mode until you move?

Are the time zone rolled into the system as you go threw the states?

Does the truck shut down over your hours? and if your like 20miles to the biggest place to pull off to rest what do you do then?
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:32 AM
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You use the quacomm to do all log etnries...through an entry call a macro aka "canned" message...you select macro...3...and enter your duty status ..you don't need to send macro 3 as the system will bump you to ln 3 if you move truck more then .5-1 mi and if after 10hr brk automticlly back log u 15 for pre trip..but however not sending mac 3 can result in being back logged more than 15 and shorting your10hr...so send it.


they use...macros for all log entries...such as arv at shp ,con ,stp...
it's an easy system ,but would take pages to explain every macro .

you can change (correct) your logs via mac 50 ,but logs will only accept change like ln4 to ln 2...ln 1 to ln 2...forget backing up time to show you leaving earlier or later...or any time averaging your miles, so once qualcomm shows you starting your day you will be running a legal 11/14 renewed/re-set only via legal hos break...


The system works werner plans loads very well ,and it is not the curse others make it to be...just rememberto snd your mac 46 by midnight or if running through mdnite do it b4 u snd any other macro at shut down this is your post trip.
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:14 AM
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That's kool... I'm sure it would take pages to explain every macro but if I had a marco book from company I'm sure it would make sense after a week and wouldn't be no stress like fighting with a darn log book :lol:
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:23 AM
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The Werner Paperless log is very easy to use....once you have practiced it and really get an understanding of how the system works.

The logs work like the paper log in that the times are logged in 15min increments, rounded ahead or back to the nearest quarter hour, depending on when the duty status change is input. Commonly call "sliding the logs". Just like on paper.

One of the requirements during the "testing" phase of the logs, was that the driver must have total control of the logging system. In other words the driver accomplishes all duty status changes with the exception of the VI and fueling. VI is automatically accomplished when the driver completes a 10hr break, either split or full when the driver changes duty status to either line 3 or 4. The logs will "backup" 15min and insert the VI. If the driver inputs a duty status to on duty (line 3 or 4) at 0700, the logs will begin at 0645 as a line 4 VI.

Fueling is accomplished automatically when the driver inserts the EFS card at the pump reader, this will record a 15min fueling. Smart drivers that take a break at an authorized fuel stop will wait till the end of the 10hr break to fuel the truck, rather than fuel it at the end of the duty day. Fueling at the completion of the 10hr break and waiting the requiste 15min then fueling will enable the driver to combine the fueling with the VI in one 15min line 4. Same can be accomplished when taking the break at the customers. Combining a 15min load/unload with the VI.

Completed loading/Stop complete/Empty messages all contain a duty status for the task... Minimum 15min for line 4.

Other Ancilliary work like dropping a trailer....loading/unloading began have there own Macro messages that would contain a duty status change as appropriate.

NOW.....This rumor really needs to be put to rest.....If the driver runs out of hours "does the truck shut down?"....NO!!!!....Werner or any company...for that matter, is NOT responsible for a driver violating the logs.Can you imagine the safety issues if the truck shut off, just anywhere!!

If the driver continues past the 11/14/70. The driver will be in violation and recieve the appropriate disipline that was implemented with the Electronic logging system. Some "minor" violations may not get anything more that a probationary period. If no violations are shown by the driver in a determined period the first violation "disappears". Some minor violations can be overlooked...assuming a "pattern" by the driver has not been shown.
Corrections can be accomplished by a single macro. All duty status corrections can be accomplished, even an error in the logging of line 3...Howerver...the driver would need good justification to correct an errored line 3.
The truck can be moved a short distance without "tripping" the logs to a line 3 status.....just depends on where the truck is located. There is no scientific method to determine how far you can go. But generally no more than 2miles before an automatic line 3 change will occur.

This system does work very well with load matching, by the FM and Load Planners, as they can see the drivers availablity in real time.

To wrap this up....Personnel Drive Time is also available to the driver...utilizing the same criteria as a driver with a paperlog. When the driver is uncommitted from the load, the driver can utilize the truck for personnel conveyance.

Got any more questions feel free to ask....
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:47 AM
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Thanks for the time you put to type and share the info.
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If your q/c looses it's mind - like mine did it will send all kinds of funny information to the log system ----- like you are driving at 40 mph when you are sitting still, saying you are one place but you are at another.

Also another little quirk is that on some trucks if you like to play with the range switch while you are parked --- it could send a signal saying that you are driving ------- line 3.
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trucks do not shut down when your hours are up any longer, the dot required this system to be taken out of trucks, it was way too dangerous
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enjoy trying to rush to a truckstop while the darn thing is calling you out: 'you have 10 minutes driving time remaining' and having to reset your hours at shippers...so dont be too happy about not having paper logs, id take paper back any day. I dont drive for werner tho.
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You use the quacomm to do all log etnries...through an entry call a macro aka "canned" message...you select macro...3...and enter your duty status ..you don't need to send macro 3 as the system will bump you to ln 3 if you move truck more then .5-1 mi and if after 10hr brk automticlly back log u 15 for pre trip..but however not sending mac 3 can result in being back logged more than 15 and shorting your10hr...so send it.
I think you mean Macro 8 (change of duty status) instead of 3 (arrived at ___). Either way, it *can* automatically pick you up as moving, but it's best to go to line 3 manually, especially if you drive short distances like some of us do. Running paperless logs over the road is pretty easy, but it gets real fun on multi-stop runs with lots of line 4 time.
If you're at a truck stop, it will not automatically assume that you've stopped. It'll either keep you on line 3, or automatically change it to line 4 (unless you manually tell it otherwise).
In regards to the time zones, it automatically logs everything in central time (since the mothership is in Omaha, NE) regardless of what time zone the driver sets the interface to display.
If you're 20 miles from the nearest safe haven, well, it sometimes allows you 15 minutes (if you started the day by driving, and not by a combined load/VI, empty/VI or something like that) extra. If you did some line 4 antics to start your day, well, you may just be looking at a log violation.
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