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Old 02-16-2008, 06:02 AM
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Ok I have a question say I drove for 5 hours to the shipper and it took 3 hours to unload and I took a nap during the 3 hour unload, where would I log this and how does that work on my 11/14 rule?
 
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Originally Posted by sbatson
Ok I have a question say I drove for 5 hours to the shipper and it took 3 hours to unload and I took a nap during the 3 hour unload, where would I log this and how does that work on my 11/14 rule?

Line 2 (sleeper berth) means your body was in the sleeper. It doesn't mean you was sleeping, just means you was in the sleeper. Therfore in your example you said you took a nap so you would log that 3 hours in the sleeper. Going to the sleeper will only save your hours on your 70 hour, not your 14 hour.

Now the 3 hours is going to count against your 14 hour clock. The only way to extend or stop the clock is to have 8 hours in the SLEEPER.

So from the time you entered lines 3 or 4 after the 10 hour consecutive break you had 14 hours to get your 11 hours in. If you take a 2 hrs or 7.75 hour break you still must stop DRIVING at the end of your 14 hour

Example:

If I did my pre-trip @ 10:00 am I would count over 14 hours on the clock and thats when I must stop driving. The driving time in between 10:00 am and midnight can not total more than 11 hours of driving. Whichever comes first the 11 or 14 hour you must stop DRIVING, you can be on line 4 for however long you would like!

I can pm you a picture of this very example if you would like
 
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:54 AM
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Ya PM me one, as you can tell I'm new so trying to get the most info as I can.
 
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Old 02-17-2008, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat6869
Originally Posted by sbatson
Ok I have a question say I drove for 5 hours to the shipper and it took 3 hours to unload and I took a nap during the 3 hour unload, where would I log this and how does that work on my 11/14 rule?

Line 2 (sleeper berth) means your body was in the sleeper. It doesn't mean you was sleeping, just means you was in the sleeper. Therfore in your example you said you took a nap so you would log that 3 hours in the sleeper. Going to the sleeper will only save your hours on your 70 hour, not your 14 hour.

Now the 3 hours is going to count against your 14 hour clock. The only way to extend or stop the clock is to have 8 hours in the SLEEPER.

So from the time you entered lines 3 or 4 after the 10 hour consecutive break you had 14 hours to get your 11 hours in. If you take a 2 hrs or 7.75 hour break you still must stop DRIVING at the end of your 14 hour

Example:

If I did my pre-trip @ 10:00 am I would count over 14 hours on the clock and thats when I must stop driving. The driving time in between 10:00 am and midnight can not total more than 11 hours of driving. Whichever comes first the 11 or 14 hour you must stop DRIVING, you can be on line 4 for however long you would like!

I can pm you a picture of this very example if you would like

not quite correct, a period of at least 2 hours in the sleeper will also stop the clock, but then you have to take another 8. you still cant drive more than 11 like you said


G-3. How does a driver who is utilizing the sleeper berth provision calculate his or her compliance with the 14-hour rule?

A sleeper-berth period of at least 8 consecutive hours is excluded from calculation of the 14-hour limitation. All other sleeper berth periods are included in the 14-hour calculation (unless part of a sleeper-berth/off-duty combination of 10 or more consecutive hours).
 
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:12 AM
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So let me see if I get this, say I drove 5 hours to shipper and it took 3 hours to unload, I can log this into sleeper berth( rather I really did or not) and after loaded I pull out and can run another 6 hours and then I need to stop for my 10 but really 7 since I already got 3 earlier in the sleeper?
 
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sbatson
So let me see if I get this, say I drove 5 hours to shipper and it took 3 hours to unload, I can log this into sleeper berth( rather I really did or not) and after loaded I pull out and can run another 6 hours and then I need to stop for my 10 but really 7 since I already got 3 earlier in the sleeper?

.kind of, you will have to take 8 hours because it has to be 8 and 2
 
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So its either 10 or 8 and 2? Is this what they call split sleeper berth?
 
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Originally Posted by sbatson
So its either 10 or 8 and 2? Is this what they call split sleeper berth?
yes, it has to be at least 8 and at least another 2, so even if you took 6 hours sleeper the first time, you would still have to take 8 more
 
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Originally Posted by sbatson
So its either 10 or 8 and 2? Is this what they call split sleeper berth?
go here click hos and download the manual, read it and then when your head stops spinning, let us know how you interpret it.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/
 
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Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Originally Posted by sbatson
Ok I have a question say I drove for 5 hours to the shipper and it took 3 hours to unload and I took a nap during the 3 hour unload, where would I log this and how does that work on my 11/14 rule?

Line 2 (sleeper berth) means your body was in the sleeper. It doesn't mean you was sleeping, just means you was in the sleeper. Therfore in your example you said you took a nap so you would log that 3 hours in the sleeper. Going to the sleeper will only save your hours on your 70 hour, not your 14 hour.

Now the 3 hours is going to count against your 14 hour clock. The only way to extend or stop the clock is to have 8 hours in the SLEEPER.

So from the time you entered lines 3 or 4 after the 10 hour consecutive break you had 14 hours to get your 11 hours in. If you take a 2 hrs or 7.75 hour break you still must stop DRIVING at the end of your 14 hour

Example:

If I did my pre-trip @ 10:00 am I would count over 14 hours on the clock and thats when I must stop driving. The driving time in between 10:00 am and midnight can not total more than 11 hours of driving. Whichever comes first the 11 or 14 hour you must stop DRIVING, you can be on line 4 for however long you would like!

I can pm you a picture of this very example if you would like

not quite correct, a period of at least 2 hours in the sleeper will also stop the clock, but then you have to take another 8. you still cant drive more than 11 like you said


G-3. How does a driver who is utilizing the sleeper berth provision calculate his or her compliance with the 14-hour rule?

A sleeper-berth period of at least 8 consecutive hours is excluded from calculation of the 14-hour limitation. All other sleeper berth periods are included in the 14-hour calculation (unless part of a sleeper-berth/off-duty combination of 10 or more consecutive hours).
The 2 hour break does NOT stop the clock ! That's why it says of @ least 8 consecutive hours is exlcuded from the calculation and then it goes to say all OTHER sleeper berth periods are included.

The 2 hour break can be a combination of lines 1 & 2 but does not STOP the CLOCK (EXTEND IT).
 

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