Hmm. I never knew that. Interesting.

Yeah, the R Models were tough. Tough on the hind end, too. :P

 

I didn't say that all Volvo's had all Volvo drivelines. What I said was:
Allan 5oh Wrote:
I'm quite aware that Volvo acquired the Autocar brand many years ago, as evidenced by this statement in one of my earlier posts in this thread:
The Autocars you're seeing must be old ones, since Volvo eliminated that brand at least 10 years ago. Unless they're still selling Autocars in Canada.

I know they don't sell them in the US anymore.

 

To me it is :evil: :evil:

 

Yeah, what he said!!!

 

Volvo already tryed their consolidation crap

For a period of time you could not get a sleeper cab back or a voaction volvo


Guess what... mack is producing sleeper cabbed trucks and volvo just released the VHD vocation truck


THink positive my friends... at least yall dont have to work on the volvo sumbitches :cry:

 

Same here.

 

I do realise that what I'm about to say will most likely open up a can of worms, but so be it....

In some of the above posts, how much of all the Volvo-bashing & Mack-loving is based on a rational, unbiased, pound-for-pound comparison by drivers who have driven both extensively, and how much on xenophobia ( since Volvo is not an American brand ) ?

 

never driven a volvo and never will even my company has volvos and there not buying anymore. Thank God. I just really like mack trucks(2002 and older) the new ones aint to bad. You have to understand when mack built a truck there #1 rule was it had to take a azzwipin. #2 rule was they made them for real men to drive. I know you all like your air ride and woodgrain dash Its nice but it dont make a truck. Just my 2cents. BTW your right i hate anything that aint american.

 

By that token, Mackman, the clothes you're wearing, the shoes you're wearing, pretty much most things that you use, aren't made in America. How many of those things are you going to end up hating ?

Also, the reason that they aren't made in America, is because of the so-called "free trade" and "globalisation" mantras that were expounded by guess who....American economists, politicians and corporates, who forced these concepts down the throats of less-developed countries. And when the latter seized onto the idea, and turned the tables on American products, now American business principles seem to be hoist with their own petard.

Also, the idea behind driving trucks is not to show how much of a "real man" you are, but to make an honest, decent living. For those of us who own our own trucks, we don't go by which truck is going to prove our masculinity ( as if we'd need a truck to prove that !! ), but a truck which is reliable and would contribute to the bottom-line, rather than bleeding us dry....and if that truck also happens to have certain creature comforts, so be it !

 

well we are getting off topic but i will say i try to buy american when i can.