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Old 08-25-2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mack2
A Mack now is nothing more than Volvo with a Mack bull dog the granite is real simaller to the volvos vhd except for the cab.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing ? In the sense, will the quality of Mack trucks improve ? Do the two brands share any components ?

In my limited trucking experience, I've driven Mack, International, Western Star, Kenworth and Volvo ( which I currently drive )....and I've become a great fan of Volvo : the quality, performance, spaciousness, & comfort. Mind you, I'm into heavy-hauling, where I pull super B pneumatic bulkers. The truck I drive is ideally spec'd out for heavy hauling.

When I drove a Mack, I'm sorry to say but, that was probably my worst driving experience. I'm not trying to denigrate Mack....I'm simply sharing my experience.
 
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Old 08-26-2007, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Graymist
Originally Posted by Mack2
A Mack now is nothing more than Volvo with a Mack bull dog the granite is real simaller to the volvos vhd except for the cab.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing ? In the sense, will the quality of Mack trucks improve ? Do the two brands share any components ?

In my limited trucking experience, I've driven Mack, International, Western Star, Kenworth and Volvo ( which I currently drive )....and I've become a great fan of Volvo : the quality, performance, spaciousness, & comfort. Mind you, I'm into heavy-hauling, where I pull super B pneumatic bulkers. The truck I drive is ideally spec'd out for heavy hauling.

When I drove a Mack, I'm sorry to say but, that was probably my worst driving experience. I'm not trying to denigrate Mack....I'm simply sharing my experience.


The r model wasnt exactly comfortable, but it was big improvement over the b model
 
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Originally Posted by Graymist
Originally Posted by Mack2
A Mack now is nothing more than Volvo with a Mack bull dog the granite is real simaller to the volvos vhd except for the cab.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing ? In the sense, will the quality of Mack trucks improve ? Do the two brands share any components ?

In my limited trucking experience, I've driven Mack, International, Western Star, Kenworth and Volvo ( which I currently drive )....and I've become a great fan of Volvo : the quality, performance, spaciousness, & comfort. Mind you, I'm into heavy-hauling, where I pull super B pneumatic bulkers. The truck I drive is ideally spec'd out for heavy hauling.

When I drove a Mack, I'm sorry to say but, that was probably my worst driving experience. I'm not trying to denigrate Mack....I'm simply sharing my experience.
Don't get me wrong I'm all in favor of more room and a nicer ride but Volvo has turend Mack into a peice of crap.
 
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Graymist

Is that a good thing or a bad thing ? In the sense, will the quality of Mack trucks improve ? Do the two brands share any components ?
You're kidding, right??? :lol:
 
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing ? In the sense, will the quality of Mack trucks improve ? Do the two brands share any components ?
You're kidding, right??? :lol:
No, I'm not kidding. I asked a genuine question.
 
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Graymist
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing ? In the sense, will the quality of Mack trucks improve ? Do the two brands share any components ?
You're kidding, right??? :lol:
No, I'm not kidding. I asked a genuine question.
Volvo has not improved Mack.

Quite the opposite, The older pre Volvo takeover Macks were indestructible.

The newer post Volvo Macks may be more comfortable from a driver's standpoint, but they are not real Mack trucks anymore.

They are Volvos in Bulldog's clothing
 
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Splitshifter the Granite isn't even that comfortable I found it mushy and just a plain piece of crap.
 
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As a mechanic who works on both brands, new and used... Uou folks saying they are the same truck are wrong.


Yes, they do share alot of parts, but they are set-up quite differently and most parts are NOT interchangeable

The MP series mack engines and the D series volvo engines are identical except for the programming though :idea:


A mack is still a mack, a volvo still a volvo. They just happen to share certain parts


There is not a single dump truck around here ordered with anything but a camelback and a mack tranny

The oilfields are running mack trannys coupled with mack air ride suspensions



Its not the end of the world guys



Just my first hand opinion. Not meant to be argumentative or offensive :wink:
 
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An addenum to my last post:


You want to tell the difference bewteen the two... Dirve both of them one right after another

The volvo will be more comfortable, more roomy, and and have a few hundred RPMs higher powerband


The mack still rides like a buckboard wagon, is cramped in places, and has low end grunt out the ass
 
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Originally Posted by Splitshifter
We all know that Volvo produces their own drivelines, but that's not an American truck, and I have yet to see a Volvo in Municipal service.
Most volvo trucks have other drivelines.

Ever heard of autocar? I see them all the time, that's volvo.
 

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