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Old 07-27-2007, 06:43 AM
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Weather they verify his employment isnt the issue, you can correct me if I am wrong but I believe that is all that is allowed under the law, is to verify your past employment, not to go into your past employee history. You might want to re-read my post, the only advise in there is to get a copy of his DAC and see what it says
 
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As a carrier I would not touch this guy. Even if I were leased to a carrier and needed a driver to fill a seat, I would not touch him. I don't feel that I would be able to trust him to get the job done. I can't put a driver in a truck whom I don't know whether or not I can trust him. In the back of my mind would be that he might sell the load next time or get ticked off at a 4 wheeler and run over them. Unfortunately, he has shot himself in the foot. After some time passes, he might find a company who will give him another chance, but to be perfectly honest, I would prefer not having someone such as this guy in this industry. Truck abandonment hurts everyone. I recently saw a wrecker hook on to a Dart truck that was abandoned by a driver. They had to break into the truck before they could move it. They took it to their yard until the company could get someone to pick it up. The carrier will need to pay for the time the wrecker people spent, mileage and probably storage until it is picked up. In addition, the carrier will need to pay for someone to come pick it up and perhaps repair it before they can drive it. They will likely spend $2-3,000 or perhaps more, because this guy didn't do what was right. I think these drivers who abandon trucks should be prosecuted criminally. Unfortunately, that won't happen because the company gave the truck to the driver in the beginning.
 
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Originally Posted by Rockee
Weather they verify his employment isnt the issue, you can correct me if I am wrong but I believe that is all that is allowed under the law, is to verify your past employment, not to go into your past employee history. You might want to re-read my post, the only advise in there is to get a copy of his DAC and see what it says
They are allowed to ask if they would rehire the driver again. If they say no that's as good as a death sentance.
 
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Due to the nature of the work, employers can give out a lot more information that just a yes/no if they worked there. Truck driving is considered a safety sensitive job and therefore a trucking company can pass on information regarding an employee's safety record, and like it or not truck abandonment is a safety issue.

In addition more states are passing laws that allow an employer to pass on information to people calling for employment references as long as the information is true and well documented.
 
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BTW: There has never been a law saying an employer can not tell pass on information regarding a former employee's work record.

The reason many companies do not go into detail, outside of trucking, is they are afraid of being sued, and even if the company is 100% accurate it still costs them to go to court and prove they did not slander the employee.
 
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Ok I've been corrected. I dont think because someone wont hire you back that would be the end of your driving carrer. Some companies think of Swift, JB, CR the same as alot of drivers do. I do believe that the only way this fellow will get a driving job is if he goes with someone, usually smaller companies, that does not use DAC reporting. He can try explaining it away on applications or cover letters but as soon as the word abandonment comes up thats just taboo and no one in their right mind would hire him knowing this
 
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Originally Posted by Rockee
He might want to pull a copy of his DAC and see exactaly what is says as far as that is concerned. Because of his abandonment he will probably not be an easy hire unless whoever he applies to does not use DAC, alot of smaller companies dont even know what that is.
You mean this post where you said what is in bold?

Sure sounds like to me that you are saying that he would have a chance if he finds a company that does not use DAC services.
 
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
Originally Posted by Rockee
He might want to pull a copy of his DAC and see exactaly what is says as far as that is concerned. Because of his abandonment he will probably not be an easy hire unless whoever he applies to does not use DAC, alot of smaller companies dont even know what that is.
You mean this post where you said what is in bold?

Sure sounds like to me that you are saying that he would have a chance if he finds a company that does not use DAC services.

Actually any former employer under the law cannot give out any information as to why the former employee quit or the reasons. Unless its the federal govt. calling a trucking company recruiter looking for information about a former employee is not entitled to any 'security" information and no former employer should give that information out.
Where they will get you and this is legal is that when the employer you are applying to asks "Would you rehire this person?" and the former says "no" thats all the prospective employer needs to hear.

All the former employer can offer is dates hired/fired and if they would rehire.
 
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Yes Uturn that is what I said, " Because of his abandonment he will probably not be an easy hire unless whoever he applies to does not use DAC" thats not advice its just a plain simple fact
 
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I figured it would probally be a tough sell. He ordered a copy of his DAC, to see exactly what comments Stevens left on it.
 

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