Which is more productive, resetting or 8.75 hrs a day.
#11
Originally Posted by townie388
Originally Posted by "inmate1577
A "reset" is a 34hr reset. You are given 70hrs to work in 7 days or in our case, 8 days. Thats work/not driving such as loading, etc and driving combined. You can work a max of 14hrs per day but drive only 11 hrs per day. In my case, on the 8th day you can take the hours you worked on the 1st day and add that to the remaining hours left. If you have no hours left by your 7th day, you have to stop and "reset" for 34hrs to get back another 70hrs. When I say "stop" you cannot work, nor drive. You must be either off duty or in the sleeper berth per your log book.
I hope this explains things, maybe I didnt explain it well enough and someone else can add their 2 cents if I missed something. Me, I like to read, watch a little TV, and mostly catch up on some much needed rest. I only had to do one or two re-sets on the road. After my dispatcher and I got to know each other and how I liked to run he knew by day 5 or 6 to start heading me home and I would do my re-set there.
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
So what do you do for 34 hours if you're not home, hang out in your cab or sleep?? Do you all have computers?
When I was OTR and took a reset on the road I would spend the time getting extra sleep, giving the inside of the truck a good cleaning, doing some laundry, reading, watching movies, etc. Since I am somewhat of a movie hound I always kept a large selection of DVD's in the truck and would buy a couple of new movies every time I went home and saved them for my reset. Most drivers spend it in the truck, but some will elect to find a motel and get a room for a night or two. I also know a few who will, if they are in an interesting area, rent a car and sight see during their reset. He's really a clean guy in regards to laundry & showering and will probably spend his days trying to figure out how to take a shower!
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While on the subject of laundry:
In order to save money, and also because I like a specific detergent, I carried my own laundry soap. If you do this I suggest using a liquid as you do not have to worry about spills. Of most truck stops that have laundry facilities do sell soap, fabric softener, etc in the single use size, but it tends to be a bit pricey.
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
While on the subject of laundry:
In order to save money, and also because I like a specific detergent, I carried my own laundry soap. If you do this I suggest using a liquid as you do not have to worry about spills. Of most truck stops that have laundry facilities do sell soap, fabric softener, etc in the single use size, but it tends to be a bit pricey. Good point Uturn. I try to buy as much stuff outside of truck stops as I can.
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#16
Originally Posted by dipstick
I saw a couple threads on this somewhere but can't find them now. I believe the conclusion was running hard and resetting would in theory would get you more miles, but I am not so sure anymore.
Don't like the idea of passing up on a good load when I get down to 25 hours or so and having to reset. Does anyone remember threads on this they can direct me to , or give me their opinion.
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So what do you do for 34 hours if you're not home, hang out in your cab or sleep?? Do you all have computers?
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#18
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Originally Posted by bikerboy
You wouldn't be legal running the 8.75 hours per day , if you go to canada. You also would have to take a 36 instead of 34 hour reset if you might go to canada!
24 hours offduty is required every 14 days
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Some of us never take a reset on the road. Driving for a furniture manufacturer - and most other manufacturers - requires me to deliver my load and then head back home. So I'm never gone for more than about 3 days at a time. This week was typical; out on Sunday, back on Tuesday at noon, Then out on Wednesday and back maybe late Friday or early Saturday. Out again next Monday.
And some freight companies - McElroy, for one - have a policy that sends drivers home every weekend. You would think that this "every weekend home" policy would result in making less money, but it doesn't. We make more than most drivers,
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This is the gist of my contribution to the lengthy thread about managing hours of service that has now vanished. There was also a lot of other good information contributed by Crackaces, the original author of the thread.
----------------------------------------------------------- Managing the 70 hour rule – various strategies I just have a few thoughts about different time management strategies. When I was in CDL school I wondered how soon a driver would run up against the 70 hour rule. This got me to doing the math to satisfy my curiosity. I created my own spreadsheet to add up the numbers on several different options over a 28 day 4 week period. Before we get started I would like to point out that the following examples are purely theoretical, and no endorsement is expressed or implied. Also please note that some figures have been rounded to make the example clearer. First option: Run hard and take the 34 hour reset. Starting Day 1 and driving 11 hours, on duty not driving 2 hours per day (85% of duty time driving). This leaves 5 hours for the sixth day, so take the 34 hour reset half of day 6 and day 7. This gives 70 hours available again for the 8th day. Over 28 days this yields 236 driving hours and 44 on duty not driving hours. At an average of 50 miles per hour thats 11,800 miles per month. At $0.25 per mile thats $2,950 per month and $38,350 per year. (4 weeks times 13 equals 52) Second option: Run easy and never run out of hours. Basically thats 8.75 hours on duty per day every day for the 28 day period. At the same 85% of on duty time driving as option one that leaves 7.5 hours of driving and 1.25 hours of on duty not driving per day. Over 28 days this yields 210 driving hours and 35 on duty not driving hours. At an average of 50 miles per hour thats 10,500 miles per month. At $0.25 per mile thats $2,625 per month and $34,125 per year. This may fool some people because the total hours for the past 8 days including today will always equal 70 but we must remember that the rule is not to EXCEED 70 hours in 8 days. To calculate how many hours we have available for tomorrow we add up how many hours on duty in the las 7 days including today and that number will equal 61.25 leaving 8.75 hours for the next day. This option is 88% as efficient in terms of income as option one but sacrafices hometime to do it. Third option: 7 days on 2 off. Difficult because you have to manage your hours for seven days, and then you get a reset. Ten hours on duty per day, 8.5 driving, 1.5 on duty not driving. Over 28 days this yields 196 driving hours and 34 on duty not driving hours. At an average of 50 miles per hour thats 9,750 miles per month. At $0.25 per mile thats $2,437 per month and $31,687 per year. In this purely mathmatical example you see that the continuous rolling theory is only 88% as efficient as the run hard and take your reset theory. Of course everyday is different and theory is usually the first casualty when dealing with the real world. To each his own. I believe that my point most of all disproves the theory that you can make more money/miles by living in the truck 365 days a year vs. spending each weekend at home providing that you live near a freight lane that will get you home.
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He's really a clean guy in regards to laundry & showering and will probably spend his days trying to figure out how to take a shower!


