Is walking out of orientation the equivalant of walking out

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Old 01-18-2007, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
uh oh...here I go taking the side of the recruiter again. Sorry, but I dont think the recruiter lied to him. I personally have been accused of this so called lie before. I always ask the question, "How much VERIFIABLE driving exp do you have?" They answer and I tell them the pay. Quite often the driver just thinks a driving job is verifiable when its not. This happens sometimes when a driver works for things like a neighbors cousins truck driving company down the road for cash. Sorry, things like that just arent verifiable. When in comes down to the details and a job isnt verifiable and that causes the pay to be less than what the recruiter told you, sorry, that just isnt a lie.

Now, as far as all the other stuff in this thread. Like people have told you before, if he walks out of most likely the only company that will hire him with that absolutely horrible driving record, hes got serious problems. Like useless said, With his attitude hes most likely not going to last long at any job. (holy crap, me and useless agreeing on something...surely thats one of the 7 signs of the Apocalypse)
:lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks for the laugh. I do fault the recruiter because he told the recruiter that it was a local job with a local company and he didn't have to log anything. (No relations to anyone in the company) I would think a recruiter would know whether or not that would or would not be verifiable experience with a particular company. The recruiter said he only saw one preventable, and the company said they saw three on his daq. When he asked the recruiter about it, he didn't really say anything.
 
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:48 AM
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Update:

He said the company gave him a choice to either go out with a trainer or go home.

He decided to leave.

The company is paying for his bus ticket home. I'm not going to pick him up. He will have to talk to my parents about that. :twisted: :twisted:

I take it, this would not be considered walking out of a job, and would not be put on daq.

The recruiter is backing him up on the decision, since the company told my husband one thing and ended up doing something else. A lady at the company told him before he went to orientation that they would see 6 months, and pay him .30 cpm. At the end of orientation they said only 3 months at .28 cpm and has to go out with the trainer two weeks.

The recruiter (I don't fully trust) is trying to get him in the other company that said was interested in him, and would see all of my husband's experience, including the year of local driving. I'm not holding my breath on that statement though. The recruiter said it was hard to get a hold of the contact for the company. He also gave my husband the contact information. Whether or not that company will still be interested, I'm not sure.

The preventables were one stuck in the mud, one tear up grass, one rub telephone pole with only some rub marks on the tire. If my husband didn't open mouth and insert foot and told him he rubbed it with the front tire, the police would have thought he missed the pole all together. No tickets were given and MVR is clean. In March the last one will be two years old.

I don't know if everything is doom and gloom. I guess it would have been worse if he went with the trainer not likeing the company, and thinking the company lied to him. He would have been more apt to mess up.

It's about time to check me into the loony bin though. :nervous:
 
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
We're all dead now, Sheepdancer. :shock:

As far as the driver, with his apparent record, lack of experience, etc., he can walk from this orientation but it's not likely he'll get another shot at the industry. If he found a company willing to gamble on him, the smart thing would be to suck it up, knuckle down, and get through the tough times. $500 or $600 a week is $500 or $600 more than nothing.
Twlight, my whole life has been tough. During one point in time, I lived off of $500 every two weeks for a family of five. Seems anytime I get a little extra money all I'm doing is getting bills caught up.

Your a recruiter. Tell me, do any companies see local driving as experience? How many companies would hire him as an advanced driver trainee? That what he said the company was considering him right now.
 
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Many companies will only count OTR/regional experience for OTR driving jobs. Also many companies, for the first 2 years of experience, automatically subtract 1 to 2 months of "experience" off the first OTR job a driver has had since s/he was in training.

Add to that the driver saying he worked for a company from Jan to June or 2006 and the company gets exact dates of Jan 28 to June 3 and you just lost another month off the total.

During that first 2 years or so verifiable experience is a very subjective thing that depends heavily on how a company wants to look at it.
 
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Thanks Uturn, I'll pass that information on to him.
 
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by brian
do you wanna stay poor because of this jackass? sounds like he wants everything handed to him and doesn`t wanna work.

I say leave him 25 cents in the bank account and take off
Wouldn't have worked. Company paid for his bus ticket. My parents took pity on him, so he isn't stuck at the bus station when he gets back. But he still has to deal with me, and he already knows I'm more than PO'ed. :evil: :twisted: :evil:

I guess he still has a home.
 
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I'm curious as to what company gave him this chance for employment?
 
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Your a recruiter. Tell me, do any companies see local driving as experience?
I'm not certain it's the standard for everybody, but most companies will not pay a driver for local experience...just the OTR or Regional stuff.

How many companies would hire him as an advanced driver trainee?
That's a question I cannot answer. We do not do training here, so I am unfamiliar with the various levels and packages.

Bottom line, he screwed up in my opinion. He's back home, no income, no money, and nothing solid to work toward. Sounds to me like he just doesn't want to work. I know that were I in his position with a family to take care of, I'd be cleaning toilets at the truck stop (well, maybe not. )if it meant putting food on the table. In his case, he doesn't have the luxury of being picky because slim pickin's are about to go to no pickin's.
 
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Well, from a mathematical standpoint, he thought he was going to be making $.30 CPM. only to discover that he would be making $.28CPM. So, instead of settling for a little over 91% of what he had, he walked away with a bus ticket, and 100% of NOTHING!!!

As far as having to go out with a trainer, with a record like his, he should welcome the opportunity to get a little more help!!


Now, as for the "It's the principle" argument, in this case, I'd give the "Middle Finger Salute" to that.
 
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I agree with the others here. He should have went with a trainer. There's not a day goes by that I don't learn something from someone. He might have passed up the opportunity of a lifetime, problem is: he'll never know.
$660
As for the 2 CPM pay difference.

Here's the math as i calculated it:

on a low mileage week, say 2200 miles

@ 30 CPM he would have grossed $660
@ 28 CPM he would have grossed $616
For the $44 in difference he should have taken the job.
Trouble is so many people think they should start at the top instead of working their way up.

I thought I had read that you wanted to know if HE would be a trainer. That would be very unlikely in my opinion. Not until he had proven himself with the company. And the only thing he proved was; he didn't want to work.

Good luck to you and your family.
 

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