Japanese Quake
#21
03-12-2011, 06:43 PM
Well.... the cloud from Japan will ALSO go east. I don't THINK this will be another Chernobyl, though it COULD be! But... you said 1,000 miles? From California.... that wouldn't even get past the western deserts and the Rocky Mtns. Wouldn't even reach the heartland and the breadbasket! It would just send THOUSANDS of illegal immigrants scrambling for the border.... to go HOME! :lol:
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#22
03-12-2011, 07:01 PM
One said:
Btw. the reactor core did melt down reguardless of what the news sais atm....
radioactive Ceasium has been detected. That comes from the fuel rods having melted and the metal boiling.
The TOP scientists and nuclear specialists are ON THE JOB right now... and in a country with THEIR record for Nuclear power and safety..... WE, as a World community will band together... without concern for RACE, RELIGION or Politics.... to help our fellow man! :usa:
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#23
03-13-2011, 12:15 AM
Well, 24 hours later they are now saying that a partial meltdown has probably occurred in one reactor and that they are frantically trying to keep they others from doing the same thing. They are now worried about a major hydrogen explosion occurring on the reactor that may have started to melting down. They can't say for certain that a meltdown has started because they would have to send a suicidal person into the reactor to check it and that ain't gonna happen.
When the hydrogen-filled steam was vented from the reactor vessel, the hydrogen reacted with oxygen, either in the air or water outside the vessel, and exploded.
A similar "hydrogen bubble" problem concerned officials at the 1979 Three Mile Island nuclear disaster in Pennsylvania, until it dissipated. According to experts interviewed by The Associated Press, any melted fuel would eat through the bottom of the reactor vessel. Next, it would eat through the floor of the already-damaged containment building. At that point, the uranium and dangerous byproducts would start escaping into the environment. At some point in the process, the walls of the reactor vessel — 6 inches (15 centimeters) of stainless steel — would melt into a lava-like pile, slump into any remaining water on the floor, and potentially cause an explosion much bigger than the one caused by the hydrogen. Such an explosion would enhance the spread of radioactive contaminants. If the reactor core became exposed to the external environment, officials would likely began pouring cement and sand over the entire facility, as was done at the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident in the Ukraine, Peter Bradford, a former commissioner of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said in a briefing for reporters. At that point, Bradford added, "many first responders would die."
#25
03-13-2011, 04:11 AM
Yes, they believe it was a hydrogen explosion and that a 2nd and 3rd reactor having a hydrogen explosion at this plant is inevitable. It's from pumping in the seawater mixed with boron onto rods that are piping hot. They have to vent the hydrogen steam that's being created, the problem with that is that it will also release some radiation into the air and the really don't want to do that. If they don't vent it, eventually it builds up enough pressure and you get what's called a BLEVE.
They would really like to get the normal cooling system working again, that would greatly reduce the risk of another explosion and/or meltdown.
#26
03-13-2011, 04:13 AM
If a full meltdown occurs, you can bet your azzhat that the West Coast is going to know about it quickly. I already told my brother who lives in Sumner WA to pay attention to the weather channel, and know what the jet stream is doing. This time of year.....that is where the radiation is most likely to come ashore....western WA and soutwestern BC. my opinion.
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03-13-2011, 04:29 AM
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And, the last bit of news I've gotten says there may be 10,000 dead from all that. Quake and tsunami. Sounds like more than one town was completely washed away. Most people simply evacuated to a mile from the shoreline. The waves came as much as 6 miles inland. The "one mile" distance was not enough. That's accounts for most of the casualties. Several other countries are sending ships to help with efforts, but the US already has 4 on station. And, from what I understand, they are also helping with the reactor situations. The sea water and boron means that plant will never be producing power again. That site is officially dead.
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03-13-2011, 04:42 AM
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Update. Looks like they're expecting to find that 10,000 people died in one town alone.
Quake death toll soars in Japan - World news - Asia-Pacific - msnbc.com And, the damage covers hundreds of miles of coastline. Plus, they're expecting another quake in the near future. It may not happen, but the people are being told to expect it. A few survivors have been picked up several miles at sea. They don't expect to find many that way, and don't expect to find most. Don't know just what news channel it was, but one said the death toll could go over a hundred thousand. That;s a whole lot of people gone.
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#29
03-13-2011, 07:40 AM
The toll has topped 10K already. It's doubtful the true toll will ever be known but it's going to be way up there. People are without running water, safe water, electricity or food that hasn't gone bad. This is looking like Haiti but on a larger scale. The only good is that Japan is not a 3rd world country like Haiti, they have resources on hand already to deal with this but they weren't ready for the scope of this disaster.
Part of the problem with why the people only went 1 mile inland, there was no receding of the water which is normally the early sign of a bad tsunami coming in. The fault line gave off such a thrust that it created an enormous wave without having to build itself up like the Indonesia Tsunami did. Normally the ocean gives off an appearance of a huge low tide for a tsunami, this one in Japan did not do that so most people probably thought that the wave would not be that bad, only a few feet high, not the 27+ feet. Stan, yes that is a big thing to be watching right now. In Japan they currently have at least 22 residents around the one Nuke plant that have radiation on them. I was just reading that another Nuke plant is in serious trouble also.
#30
03-13-2011, 09:33 AM
Here is some interesting reading, on what the deep thinkers feel happened to the planet during those 2.5 minutes of shaking.
Japan earthquake science: Japan earthquake shifted Earth on its axis - WGN Radio If a portion of those islands moved eastward 2 & 1/2 feet and the entire country dropped 2 feet inelevation..............Is it any wonder that things are so bad?? 10 thousand dead??? I bet it's going to be worse than the quake and tsunami down in Indoneasia in 2004....a lot worse!!
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