More Guns = Less Crime
#61
06-14-2010, 01:26 AM
Like powder size... Powder burn rate... And, all determined by the amount of chamber pressure the weapon is able to tolerate. Generally, finer powder burns faster, and the ingredients can also increase that rate. You can take two identical casings, load one for a slow projectile, and the other for an extremely fast one. You'll also find that the folks that cast their own projectiles can "imbed" a little extra that is still capable of penetration, and can do so in a manner that is not visible from the surface. Another words, you can look at it, and not see any real difference. But take aim at an engine block, and the "heart" will make it inside, even if all the lead does not. I doubt that most people who cast their own do anything like that, but it is not difficult to do. And, it is very effective. So, all the bans on assault weapons, and the special ammo still does not prevent it. It only serves to keep the honest people honest.
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06-14-2010, 09:32 AM
#63
06-14-2010, 01:11 PM
There was a burglar in CA that was interviewed by the new media. One of the statements he made was "The best thing they can do for the burglary profession, is to disarm America." That way, a burglar would not have to worry about meeting a Smith and Wesson just inside the window. Ownership of weapons actually does deter crime. Same reason Japan did not invade mainland America. They were afraid their troops would be greatly outnumbered by the number of "private citizens with rifles behind every tree". They were afraid they would suffer UTTER DEFEAT because of an "Armed America".
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#64
06-15-2010, 01:05 AM
GMAN said:
This MAY be true. In which case, I would advocate "hiding the fact." However.... it is NOT the case in the MAJORITY of the country. And therefore, the Federal laws are not restrictive to a point that it requires revolution. Not yet, perhaps. There are a few states and cities who have greater restrictions on gun ownership and yet they are the very ones who have the highest violent crimes. I've never LIVED in places like Chicago, D.C, or Miami. I'm not IGNORANT of what goes on there.... but, out here in the REAL world, things are not so desperate. I would think that the LAST alternative in these areas would be to "arm the public," but if that is what it takes? I could be persuaded. I just believe that the problems lie elsewhere as well as do the SOLUTIONS. If everyone always did what was right then we would not need to protect ourselves so much. On the other hand, if you read the 2nd Amendment the main reason for having it is to protect ourselves from our government. Then show me some PROOF! I'm sure I can find STATS to show that there are PLENTY of areas around the country where no such thing has occurred! And I can give you MANY reasons why violence has increased in certain areas REGARDLESS of gun laws! Or DECREASED.... for that matter! I would like to see some of those statistics. You don't seem to be following my logic here, GMAN. Crime rates have RISEN for MANY reasons in recent years.... and it just happens to be coincidental with registration laws. It would have happened REGARDLESS! Show me SOME reason to believe that crime rates have risen BECAUSE of registration laws. I am not saying that registration laws have necessarily caused crime rates to rise, but the more control that is levied on gun owners the higher the crime rates since the only ones who register or comply are honest citizens. The criminals don't bother to register or comply with laws anyway. We grew up in the same timeframe, GMAN. I had no gun to register. Times have just changed. We used to could leave our cars unlocked. We used to could walk dark streets at night. MY LIFE has been affected just as YOURS has... and I HAD NO GUN TO REGISTER! The increase in violence has absolutely NOTHING TO DO with gun registration OR ownership IMHO. We have always had guns in the house. We never considered that we would have to register them. When they wanted to force everyone to register our guns the reason we were given is that it would keep guns out of the hands of criminals. That has really worked, hasn't it? I disagree, but I can see your point. But, likewise.... registration nor "regulation" has done NOTHING to INCREASE gun violence... NOR has it "abridged" your 2nd Ammendment rights. Actually, it has is some areas. Just look at New York, Chicago and Washington D.C. and Massachusetts. These are some of the most restrictive areas for gun ownership and they have some of the highest violent crimes. And the laws in these areas do violate my 2nd Amendment rights because they restrict my ability to own or carry a firearm. And THIS is your main, if not SOLE, contention in favor of arming the American public? Okay... I see your point. But, don't pretend that it wouldn't lead to the days of Dodge City! Is it a failure of our police forces? Yeah... maybe. But is the answer to arm a fragile public? I don't think so. I think the main problem we have in this country is a breakdown in our moral authority. Likewise... when we wore ties to school, paid 19 cents for a burger, and had to steal a Playboy to see some PORN.... we didn't have the gun violence we have today. Can you draw a relationship between these facts?? AGAIN... listen closely.... we would have had the increase in gun violence today, as a product of an evolving lifestyle and country, REGARDLESS of certain laws passed concerning registration of firearms. Registration of firearms has NO RELATION to increased gun violence! If you disagree.... PROVE me wrong! ... and PLEASE USE FACTS! :hellno: Well, I never stole a copy of Playboy growing up, but I did buy a few copies. :thumbsup: I am not so sure that the increase in gun violence has anything to do with an evolving lifestyle. It is a breakdown in morality. And some of these things did start around the time the government decided that we should register our guns. The only reason to register a gun is so that the government can know where to go when and if they decide to take them. Registration has done NOTHING to decrease gun or violent crime. In fact, I don't think that reducing crime was the real reason for registration in the first place. Whether a direct relationship can be drawn or not, those types of crimes have risen since registration began. Haven't we ALL? Gun violence has ALSO increased since Instant Replay was accepted into the NFL. Can you show me how THAT was a causal relationship? :hellno: I don't know what instant replay has to do with this discussion. :roll: And this could have been prevented HOW by someone having a CCW?? I don't see a good reason why anyone should need a CCW to carry a gun. It is no ones business. I SAID my mind was still "open" and I meant it. As I said earlier... I don't ignore FACTS. I ignore supposition and "group think." I've lived for the SAME number and actual "decades" that YOU have, GMAN (maybe one less?) And, yes... I have seen MANY changes that have taken place in this country. I just prefer to analyze them in the TOTAL context of what has and IS going on... not just what FOXNEWS tells me is the context! I don't need FOXNEWS or anyone else to explain to me what is going on in this country. I can see the changes for myself. Tell me, GMAN.... to WHAT do you attribute the rise in Catholic priests being charged (or found out) with pedophilia? Is it some government conspiracy to make them REGISTER as Priests? Is it somehow linked to registering our firearms? I mean really.... just how far can you take this "cause and effect" claim of yours when it has absolutely NO BEARING on reality?
#65
06-19-2010, 01:04 PM
I think the rise in pedophilia is due to the lack or morality in this country. Just because someone is in a position of responsibility in a church doesn't necessarily mean that they are "walking the walk." Even Satan has access to heaven. At least until the final battle. But, that is another discussion.
Just like the numbers for rape cases went up. Not because there were more rapes, but because more and more women were reporting being raped. More and more women were coming out of the closet about it. I think that the same thing is happening with pedophilia. There were states that didn't even have any laws against it until well into the second half of the twentieth century. Kentucky, for example, had no law against incest until 1975. So, my guess would be that the numbers are becoming more accurate. But, they are not accurate yet, because I'll bet there are still cases that are not being reported. A father that was sentenced to 15 years in Kentucky, for 5 counts of sodomy with his own son, never was required to register, because he was released from prison before the law, requiring his registration, went into effect. He also died of a heart attack 3 years ago. So, the numbers are not accurate, but as the reporting improves, the numbers would appear to go up.
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#66
06-20-2010, 04:14 PM
You could be right, Windwalker. There are many more people than a few decades ago. Information is more freely available today than a few decades and there is less shame in reporting this type of criminal behavior. I prefer to think the best of people, but it seems to me that people are getting more immoral than a few years ago.
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