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Old 05-30-2010, 03:42 PM
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well, if they know many ppl have guns it'll deter them. Sorta like my mom and her hubby lived in a bad neighborhood. everyone around them got broken into but not them. Mabe it had something to do with that big bad Germain Shepard barking out the window. Having a weapon works, even if it's just a dog.
 
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More guns do equal less crime.

They also equal fewer expensive investigations/investigators, incarcerations, courts, trials and trial lawyers. Are you still having trouble understanding why liberals don't like guns? Guns for criminals and general lawlessness serve to strengthen the preferred industries of the big government minded.
 
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Originally Posted by cdswans
More guns do equal less crime.

They also equal fewer expensive investigations/investigators, incarcerations, courts, trials and trial lawyers. Are you still having trouble understanding why liberals don't like guns? Guns for criminals and general lawlessness serve to strengthen the preferred industries of the big government minded.
Guns also keep Americas hard-workin', funeral services industry booming.
No matter how terrible a criminal was, there's always going to be some nuts going on about how Mr 3-Striker was a good boy.
 
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If you look at the statistics those states that have gotten rid of their anti gun laws and made it easier for citizens to protect themselves, violent crime rates have gone down. Florida used to have a high rate of car hijackings. When Florida made it easier for law abiding citizens to own and carry guns carjacking dropped dramatically. They did begin to concentrate on Canadians who flew into the state since they knew they would be unarmed. The media and communists would have us believe that more guns equate to more crime. The truth is in the numbers. Funny that you don't hear about these statistics from the media or politicians who would prefer us to not be able to protect ourselves.
The truth is that gun control will never deter someone who wants to commit a crime from finding and possessing a gun, in exactly the same way as making drugs illegal is going to stop anyone from using them. As long as the money is there for suppliers of either guns or drugs, there WILL BE guns and drugs. It takes only a few seconds of actual thought to realize that making another law that is supposed to deter crime (i.e., breaking a law) is not going to stop someone from breaking laws that enhance "gun control". After all, their entire intent is to...(wait for it...) BREAK THE LAW. :lol: DOH!
 
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Those are the statistics that the anti gun people don't want you to see. I would guess that most gun related crimes are committed by those who illegally possess guns. I don't think that someone who plans on committing a crime using a gun is going to concern themselves with getting one legally. They will steal what they want. Many assaults are committed by gang members. I had a cop tell me not long ago that one gang had new members kill someone as part of their initiation. Now that is scary.

You will NEVER take all guns away from those who want them. Just like drugs, the government has always taken the wrong approach. They would do better to spend their time and resources educating people rather than attempting to pass illegal laws.
 
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Old 05-31-2010, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AsphaltVoyager
The truth is that gun control will never deter someone who wants to commit a crime from finding and possessing a gun, in exactly the same way as making drugs illegal is going to stop anyone from using them. As long as the money is there for suppliers of either guns or drugs, there WILL BE guns and drugs. It takes only a few seconds of actual thought to realize that making another law that is supposed to deter crime (i.e., breaking a law) is not going to stop someone from breaking laws that enhance "gun control". After all, their entire intent is to...(wait for it...) BREAK THE LAW. :lol: DOH!
I see you have a whole 28 posts to your credit, and no mention that I have found as to what part of the country you live in. Part of the thread mentions the State of Florida. Well, I've been living down here for a few years now. I can back up what Gman has said about the carjackings. I can also tell you that in some of the bad neighborhoods, there were numerous "CRACK-HOUSES". The "HOME-BOYS" would walk into someone's house and take what ever they wanted, when ever they wanted. Sure, the cops would come down on the crack-houses like storm troopers, take everybody away, and within an hour, the places were right back in business. There were at least half a dozen "home break-ins" in any given month, and it didn't matter if it was occupied or not.

These days, people in homes have guns, and you don't have to worry about shooting someone only inside the house. You can drop him in your driveway, or in the middle of the street. You'll answer a number of questions at police headquarters, and be home in time for supper. All you have to prove is that you felt threatened.

Where there were about 8 or 9 crack-houses around here, there are now only 2 "holdouts". The "home-boys" don't even come around here anymore after half a dozen of them didn't make it back to the "hood". There has been only one home broken into in the last 6 months, and that one was not occupied. Not only that, I did a search of "sex offenders" in the area. There used to be something over 500 of them within a 5 mile radius of where I live. That number has gone down as well. Things have changed since the laws have changed. The word has gotten out that people in this area do own, and will use, guns to protect themselves. The sound of gunshots isn't common anymore. We now have only one police officer in a car, where we used to have two. And, he's not afraid to roll down his window and talk to you. In the last 6 months, we've had just one shooting.

I live down here, right in the middle of it all. I don't own a gun. I don't have to. But I've seen the change take place. We do still have domestic violence, but weapons are not involved. And, several guys from the area are serving time in prison for that.

I don't know what the statistics are for the whole area are, but in this neighborhood, things like that have gone down.
 
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Originally Posted by geeshock
hey hobo, as I used to live in west palm beach I can assure you plenty of ppl from Canada drive their OWN POV, not rental cars. Everyone assumes that since they are from Canada they fly, you know how many Quebec and Ontario license plates I seen in Fl, especially during the winter?
Well, now that might make sense. If they drove down in their POV they could be identified as Canadians. But, that's not what GMAN said. He said they FLEW down and then were singled out as being Canadians. I don't see HOW.

I don't know all the laws pertaining, but I would think MOST canadian vehiicles that crossed our border would be without guns.

However, ANYONE flying into an airport could be assumed to not have a gun, regarless of whether or not they were stinkin' Canadian Commies! :lol:
 
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
This statement, and the article above, only proves that anyone can use statistics to prove whatever point they want to prove.

Why mention Canadians? ANYONE flying into the state of Florida... or any OTHER state.... would be UNARMED!! It is against the law to carry a gun on your person while on ANY airline unless you are an air marshall. CCW permits don't pre-empt this law.

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Ever been on an aircraft? Ever own a gun? The law states, and always has, that you cannot have a weapon on your person while flying. The airlines all have provisions for allowing anyone (ccw or not) to check a weapon at the departure airport and claim it at the arrival airport.

I lived in north, central, and south Florida. I saw first hand that allowing the citizens to exersise their constitutional rights to bear arms lowers the crime rate.

The other thing Florida did to reduce the number of car jackings on tourists and other out of towner's was to do away with the rental car license plates and have the car rental companies remove all stickers indicating a vehicle was a rental.
 
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Well, now that might make sense. If they drove down in their POV they could be identified as Canadians. But, that's not what GMAN said. He said they FLEW down and then were singled out as being Canadians. I don't see HOW.

I don't know all the laws pertaining, but I would think MOST canadian vehiicles that crossed our border would be without guns.

However, ANYONE flying into an airport could be assumed to not have a gun, regarless of whether or not they were stinkin' Canadian Commies! :lol:
Heh, thier is a diference between flying and driveing. That detail makes all the diference in the world, now me knowing that many of them "drive" down here it's easy to see how they can be singled out.

when I was a kid I got drunk and walked into the house next door. The owner said the only reason I wasn't dead was becuse I was a kid and I apoligized like my life depended on it. It probably did since I was looking down a rifle barel
 
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