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Old 05-31-2010, 05:57 AM
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President Obama is here 20 miles from me in the middle of a nasty thunderstorm.

A little info on Lincoln National Cemetary:

HISTORICAL INFORMATION The Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery lies in the northwestern area of the former Joliet Army Ammunition Plant, approximately 50 miles south of Chicago. Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery is named after the 16th President of the United States and founder of the National Cemeteries. In the midst of the Civil War, on July 17, 1862 President Lincoln's signature enacted the law authorizing the establishment of national cemeteries "... for the soldiers who die in the service of the country." During the Civil War there were 14 national cemeteries opened pursuant of this legislation. President Lincoln's legacy is especially important to the people of Illinois, where he worked and lived. Lincoln is remembered for his successful law practice and elected service as a resident of Illinois. He served as an Illinois State Assemblyman and an Illinois Representative during the 13th Congress, prior to his election as 16th President of the United States. He is buried in the Oak Ridge Cemetery near the State Capital in Springfield, Illinois, where many additional sites of historical interest are located.
Congressman George E. Sangmeister, a veteran of the Korean War, served as a representative and senator in the state of Illinois, 1973-87, and a U.S. Representative from Illinois, 1988-95. He was instrumental in the acquisition of 982 acres from the former Joliet Arsenal and its redevelopment as Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery.
 
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:58 AM
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Their incompetence drove you out? How many times have I heard that or other such it not my fault they threw me out, wouldn't promote me, sent me to the brig for no reason nonsense.
Maybe I should have used simpler English. I don't feel the need to relate my entire military history to you. But, none of what you said applies to me. I was recruited for re-enlistment with a critical job specialty bonus. All promotions were on time. But, had they not been incompetent, I'd be an ARAB linguist today, and last I heard, they were pulling down nearly $200,ooo a year.

What exactly do you think obama has done that has benefitted a single current or ex service member? Use facts, not opinions.
You can google as well as I can. Pay increases, military budget increases, veterans benefits increases, more troops to A-Stan.

I never made a single argument or point about his not serving in uniform.
"In fact I think him NOT going there shows more respect to the men and women who gave their lives in defense of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY than his being there ever could."

Perhaps, I misunderstood your intent, but this sounded like it to me.

Nothing to do with his being a democrat. It is 100% personal, not party related. And by the way, I am not a fan of war either.
Then perhaps you'd like to list your "personal" objections to his memorializing our casualties so that I will know.

Once. I have friends that have been four times, and not for only 6 hours.
Yeah, but your friends don't have to run a country or lead the free world.

Kennedy a hero? Read this Motor Torpedo Boat PT-109 | Ask.com Encyclopedia . He missed his targets with ALL his weapons and then got his butt ran over by a destroyer.
Okay, I read it. Didn't see anything that would preclude him getting a medal for helping to save his crew.

Almost got the world incinerated because he hired a band of morons to invade the Bay of Pigs instead of having the pro's do it.
Do you mean the plan devised by EISENHOWER?? And would you have preferred that we invaded a sovereign country without provocation.... like DUBYA did? The Cuban Missile Crisis had little to do with the Bay of Pigs. It would have happened either way. But, when it DID... he forced Russia to withdraw.

Backroom crap? Oh, as compared to the Chicago mafia stuff that is going on in the White House now?
No. More like the arms for hostages negotiations with terrorists that we supposedly don't do.

Sex in the oval office with an intern impresses me.
Whatever floats your boat. I care more about a president that can explain policy, including the ramifications. As opposed to one who makes claims of "mission accomplished" in a photo op to stroke his ego.

Now what are you going to do Hobo? Ban me because I'm a conservative.
I have no authority to ban anyone. I was thinking more along the lines of a concentration camp.
 
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Old 06-01-2010, 01:39 AM
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Thoughts of Memorial Day...

Spend time at the beach, play with the kids, outdoor grilling...

The beginning of the end of War, wrote the novelist Herman Wouk, lies in Remembrance. But what happens if Americans know so little of war that they have nothing to remember? Today, in the spring of 2010, nine years into one war in Afghanistan and seven years into another in Iraq, we are trapped in a strange moment: America is a country at war, but hardly anybody notices.
And, at the beaches, amid the grilling and playing in the water with the kids, not even one Flag waves in the breeze...
Ironies abound. We are more hawkish as a country than we were 40 years ago. According to Gallup, the percentage of people saying that war is sometimes necessary has risen from 44 percent to 61 percent since 1971. Yet those who do the fighting make up an ever-smaller percentage of the population—less than one 10th of one percent, compared with World War II, when 9 percent were in uniform. And Americans are split on whether they would want their children to enter the military. Fifty-one percent say they would support such a decision—but a nearly equal figure, 48 percent, say they would suggest a different occupation. Afghanistan and Iraq, if they register at all, register low in surveys about the most important issues America faces.
Yet, all of this would not be possible in this great country, had it not been for the millions of Americans that had their lives cut short in defense of our freedoms.
General Logan said that we ought to guard the graves of the dead with “sacred vigilance.” We should be vigilant long before the graves are dug, too—in the debates and decisions about how we project force, and who fights, and why.
We have nothing to argue about. No matter which side of any issue we stand on, they have paid the price for our freedom to take sides. So, no matter which side of any issue we stand on, we all owe them the same debt.
 
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