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Old 11-23-2009, 05:00 PM
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This is new? The presumption of innocence is a fundamental right in a democracy.
They killed 3,000+ Americans. They admitted to it. And you're concerned about their rights? issedoff: You know, one really doesn't have to go far to see what's wrong with this world.

We live in a rabidly hateful and depraved society..If you think that the majority of this country (and I include a whole lot of even-minded liberals here)
hateful of? Liberals? Muslims? or injustice?
My post was pretty easy to understand. If you're looking for a reason to start something, that's pretty weak. But I'll clarify...this society, this world, the entire race of mankind...is hateful, depraved, sick, twisted, and totally f**ked up beyond all resonable doubt.

Because of that, we get 9-11. We get people that want to murder billions of unbelievers. And we get people more worried about the rights of the killers than the rights of the 3000+ people that were horribly killed in that tragedy.

Maybe you should refresh yourself on the tragedy that was 9-11. You must have forgotten that before you politicized it, more than 3000 people died in every horrible way imaginable. Burned alive, suffocation by smoke, mangled, dismembered, blown to pieces, incinerated, smashed on concrete by 80 story falls. This was reality. You can probably Google a whole bunch of pictures and video if the specifics have slipped your mind.

After you're reaquainted yourself with the dead, then come back here and defend a group of killers that have already admitted to their crime.

And when they are found innocent or freed on a technicality, what then?
 
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Maybe you should refresh yourself on the tragedy that was 9-11. You must have forgotten that before you politicized it, more than 3000 people died in every horrible way imaginable. Burned alive, suffocation by smoke, mangled, dismembered, blown to pieces, incinerated, smashed on concrete by 80 story falls. This was reality. You can probably Google a whole bunch of pictures and video if the specifics have slipped your mind.
and then walking the streets to see hundreds of 'missing' fliers, just covering walls of buildings, knowing that those people won't be found. they were still finding small human bones on tops of buildings long after it happened. maybe that story never got national coverage, but it sure got a lot of local coverage.

and on a side note, the navy has or is working on 3 LPD-21 ships, each one bearing the name of the 3 locations of 9-11. the uss new york, arlington and somerset. the uss new york was in nyc the weekend before veteran's day to be commissioned. i had the privilege of touring the ship with one of it's sailors and it was an honor. the ship was built with some of the steel from the world trade center.
 
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
They killed 3,000+ Americans. They admitted to it. And you're concerned about their rights? issedoff:
Then they will be sentenced if they are pleading guilty! Don't see what the problem is there. If the shoe was on the other foot, you would want Americans in a Muslim country to be tried by a fair system.

You know, one really doesn't have to go far to see what's wrong with this world.
Nope. We don't. We want justice and have a judicial system in place. Did away with lynching years ago.

If you're looking for a reason to start something, that's pretty weak.
Start something? :roll: When I read your posts, you seem to have a hatred for Muslims and Liberals.

.this society, this world, the entire race of mankind...is hateful, depraved, sick, twisted, and totally f**ked up beyond all resonable doubt.

Because of that, we get 9-11. We get people that want to murder billions of unbelievers. (Muslims) And we get people more worried about the rights(Liberals) of the killers than the rights of the 3000+ people that were horribly killed in that tragedy.
Maybe you should refresh yourself on the tragedy that was 9-11
I remember it like it was yesterday. BUT, I am not ready to round up the posse and "hang em high". Sort of like we did the Asians right after Pearl Harbor.

I believe that the we have a system in place in our democracy that has served us well. I would want nothing less for my countrymen in another country. I am not ready to hate any mass of people for the actions of a few.

I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ. Gahdhi.
 
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We have military tribunal already in place to try and sentence these killers to death. What Obama has done is politicize this, and it's madness.

Americans in this administration have become so PC, they lack the courage to speak the truth, or call something for what it is. They are blinded by ideology. Obama is begging for civil unrest, but maybe that's what he wishes, so he can declare martial law.

:bow: Gahdhi...was a sinner too.
 
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Originally Posted by Roadhog
:bow: Gahdhi...was a sinner too.
Of course .. he was human

PS..... Fox News.. now that is a real open minded medium
 
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Reminder time...this is a CIVILIAN court. They have the deck stacked against the evidence and the truth already. And I'm talking about the guys that did it...not the entire Muslim nation. I'm talking about the liberals that are defending them...not the thousands of liberals that are just as outraged at this as every conservative.

So let's forget about why you think that these cockroaches deserve American rights when they are not American. As absolutely ludicrous is at in itself is...

...here's the question I'd like to hear you answer.

What do you think is going to happen if these dirtbags are found not guilty or freed on a technicality, because that is very likely going to be the outcome of this. What do you think is going to happen on the national stage...on the world stage?
 
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
What do you think is going to happen if these dirtbags are found not guilty or freed on a technicality, because that is very likely going to be the outcome of this. What do you think is going to happen on the national stage...on the world stage?
I wonder if they will even make it to trial, to be honest. And if they are found not guilty, they would be either lynched here or if they went to their own country, dealt with there, or they would be an alien/tourist in Iran or Afghanistan.
 
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dobry4u
Then they will be sentenced if they are pleading guilty! Don't see what the problem is there. If the shoe was on the other foot, you would want Americans in a Muslim country to be tried by a fair system.
Ali Abdal al-Aziz Ali's attorney says he is pleading not guilty, so we might have a problem. and if the shoe was on the other foot, you would be tried according to that county's legal system. so what might be fair to them, may not seem fair to you. then, most americans plead to the government to intervene on their behalf. it has happened before.

if they do go back to their own country, they might be welcomed back as heroes, like the lockerbie bomber.
 
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mommee
if they do go back to their own country, they might be welcomed back as heroes, like the lockerbie bomber.
I don't believe that they would be viewed as heroes by the Iraqi people.

and if the shoe was on the other foot, you would be tried according to that county's legal system. so what might be fair to them, may not seem fair to you. then, most americans plead to the government to intervene on their behalf.
Then you yourself believe that the American court is probably the most just .. at least in a democracy in which we are privileged to live.

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi was convicted.
 
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See, here’s where you are missing the reality here.

Let’s say they get lynched or killed as they leave the courtroom. For that to happen, we would be dealing with major civil unrest. There would be casualties, too…likely many that are innocent. Your president has to know that is going to be the outcome. Or, as Hog said, is that what he’s counting on?

But let’s say they are freed and make it home alive. Mommee is absolutely right. They will be hailed as heros and then get right back into the fight, planning the next 9-11.

These guys exercised a military action, bombing American Civilian targets with planes. More than 3000 of your fellow Americans died. These roaches SHOULD be tried in a military tribunal as war criminals. They should face immediate execution after being found guilty. But no…let’s try them in the most corrupt judicial system in the world where they stand a very good chance of being freed.

And you don’t see a problem with that?
 
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