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#101
09-20-2009, 10:07 AM
It is a stretch. And to paint every Republican with the same brush is about the same as painting all Muslims as Bin Laden followers, or all Jews as thieves or...you get the picture.
Until people stop pointing fingers they will never be able to join hands and work together for change. Just sayin...
#103
09-20-2009, 11:05 AM
Damn I missed it!!!!
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#104
09-20-2009, 03:34 PM
Its still unbeliavable to see folks judge the entire religion on the acts of few. I want to give Rev. credit for being involved in the subject so far as his points coincide with mine and am glad to see that some have their head cleared from all the garbage you see on TV these days.
It is also very sad to see Mike continuously overshooting with his posts here and surprising me in the process even more. Everything concerning Islam and our relationship with the Muslim world starts with us here in America. We have been involved in that part of the world ever since oil came about, supported conflicts, overthrew governments and such, yet our people still seem to think that we are the righteous ones here without looking more deeply below the surface of this garbage that we have been fed. There has been so much posted today. I take the day off and miss out on so much discussion. I understand that there have been mistakes made by those representing this country. People of all nationalities are prone to make mistakes. That does not give one group the right to murder or behead innocents. Muslim leaders have failed to stand up and condemn those who have committed atrocities in the name of Islam. Their failure shows that they support these terrorist actions. That is the reason so many will put all Muslims in the same group. Since I have mention Hitler and the Nazi's and WWII I will also mention the holocaust and the murder of 6 million Jews. There were others who were also killed by the Nazi's during this time. The German people were silent. Some said that they were unaware of what went on with the murders. I am not so sure. Some had to know, but were silent. By their silence they were as guilty as the ones who dropped the gas. Many Muslims still don't believe the holocaust happened. No matter what their disagreement with our government, these terrorists do not have the right to murder thousands of innocent men, women and children. If the Muslims don't want to all be grouped together then they need to stand up and be counted. They need to speak out publicly and condemn these people for their actions. Arab nations need to stop providing shelter and money to these people. I will stop grouping them together when they start acting civilized. A civilized society doesn't tolerate such atrocities.
#105
09-20-2009, 03:50 PM
Up next:
Obama was born in Kenya! [youtube]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/15hr-JHG-pA&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/15hr-JHG-pA&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube] Yep, I have heard that. He could easily stop those accusations by producing his birth certificate.
#106
09-20-2009, 03:58 PM
There has been so much posted today. I take the day off and miss out on so much discussion. I understand that there have been mistakes made by those representing this country. People of all nationalities are prone to make mistakes. That does not give one group the right to murder or behead innocents. Muslim leaders have failed to stand up and condemn those who have committed atrocities in the name of Islam. Their failure shows that they support these terrorist actions.
I don't remember Christian leaders standing up and condemning David Koresh. I guess that means they supported him. I don't remember Christian leaders standing up and condemning the molestation charges brought against Catholic priests until they were forced to. I guess that means they secretly supported them. I don't remember Christian leaders standing up and condemning Timothy McVeigh, who bombed the Oklahoma City building in retaliation for Waco. Their failure shows that they support this terrorist action. OR MAYBE RELIGIOUS LEADERS SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR NUTJOBS.
Many Muslims still don't believe the holocaust happened.
Why they deny the Holocaust -- latimes.com More of the same, I see. Keep dividing the world. That will help bring us all together.:roll:
#107
09-20-2009, 04:03 PM
OMG! Now you're one of the wacko nutjob Birthers? Where does this insanity end?????????
#108
09-20-2009, 04:12 PM
You are attempting to compare apples to oranges. I don't recall Timothy McVeigh stating anything about blowing up a building in the name of Christianity or GOD. Perhaps I missed something? I think the way the government acted in the David Koresh incident over shadowed anything anyone could have said. He didn't kill people in the name of God or Christianity. But I did hear some religious leaders condemn his behavior and his perversion of Christianity. Much of what Christian leaders say is not reported by our main street media. If you want to hear what Christians have to say it usually has to come from Christian broadcasters or conservative talk shows. None of these people, other than McVeigh, targeted innocent people. And in McVeigh's instance, he targeted a government building. According to what I recall about the story, he did it in retaliation to what the government did at Ruby Ridge. It had nothing to do with him doing it in the name of Christianity.
#109
09-20-2009, 04:16 PM
You get upset even when I agree with you? I would think that if he was not a natural born citizen that something would have been proven by this point. By his secrecy he has fueled more speculation. And as far as I know he has still never made either his birth certificate or college records public. When people hide their past it makes people curious. My problem with Obama is with his policies.
#110
09-20-2009, 04:23 PM
I think the way the government acted in the David Koresh incident over shadowed anything anyone could have said.
He didn't kill people in the name of God or Christianity. But I did hear some religious leaders condemn his behavior and his perversion of Christianity.
Much of what Christian leaders say is not reported by our main street media. If you want to hear what Christians have to say it usually has to come from Christian broadcasters or conservative talk shows.
None of these people, other than McVeigh, targeted innocent people. And in McVeigh's instance, he targeted a government building. According to what I recall about the story, he did it in retaliation to what the government did at Ruby Ridge. It had nothing to do with him doing it in the name of Christianity.
You seem awfully eager to give Christians a free pass for neglecting to act, while condemning others for not doing so. That's called bigotry. Don't believe me? Bigotry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one who regards or treats members of a group (e.g. a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.[1] Bigotry is the corresponding mindset or action. |
ops:never mind
