funny thing is....i've saved more than $500 a year by not being insured by geico. i'm insured by progressive.

 

I'm afraid I'm not one of the "night owls" that sits and talks on the CB all night long. But, for the time I am awake, doing my logs and catching up on other paperwork, I have no problem calling in authorities if something is going on in the lot. But, I'm not up all that long and don't get to see much.

But, I have read several accounts about drivers that have been busted because the police found blood in the cab/sleeper. I don't know how many of these guys we have, but I sure want to see them gone.

 

Yeah well, "the industry" needs to bring in and train folks who simply want to make a living and pay them what they are worth, until that happens you will have renegade drivers out there because they have a Gran fathered CDL "with OTR experience".

Being criminally insane is not a consideration if you have many years OTR I guess.

 

I am not sure how you draw a correlation between crime and going through CDL training. Frankly, I think we had fewer accidents before all the CDL schools came into existence. As far as pay is concerned, some people will do a good job no matter what the pay. Others will never give their best regardless of how much you pay them. People either have a good work ethic or they don't. I have always tried to do my best no matter what I am being paid. If a worker wants to earn more money then it is up to him to prove that he is worth more. I don't see that holding a CDL makes anyone more apt to commit a crime than someone who doesn't. I would guess that there have been more murders committed by those who don't have a CDL than those who do. Blaming an entire industry for mass murders may sell newspapers or bolster TV ratings, but it has no basis in fact.

 

I did not say that, nor did I say that all drivers are to blame, I said that the industry places a higher value on OTR experience than they do getting people with work ethic trained and behind the wheel, this leads to a lot of drivers who can drive real well, but may not be all there upstairs, they are there because they have been there, not because they are the best man for the job.

 

So you are saying experienced OTR drivers are crazy then.

 

No, I did not say that, I said that companies take into consideration the OTR experience due to insurance companies and may be putting morons on the road in their trucks who are criminally insane due to this factor.

The insurance companies and the trucking companies will change this when they get hit with Federal lawsuits and wrongful death lawsuits, then they will train drivers who really have work ethic and want to drive for a living.

I'm saying that "the industry" is responsible indirectly for this mess due to kissing the insurance companies arses.

 

By saying that you are saying you think the majority of experienced OTR drivers are crazy, plain and simple. Why would a company go to the expense of training drivers, with all of the liability issues, when there are plenty of experienced drivers out there to begin with?

According to your plan, the industry should only run on newbie drivers??!? Get some experience and you can no longer drive because a company will not hire you? Sounds like the most backwards thing I ever heard in my life.

 

i have a suspicion that avc doesn't even drive trucks.

 

No, I'm not saying that Mat, you are saying that because you are not really reading my posts.

I'm saying that "the industry" is giving a free pass to drivers who have OTR experience and that is the main factor they use in hiring drivers, PERIOD, END OF STORY !!!

With this "free pass", they are letting a lot of criminally insane idiots "live their fantasies out" using "their profession" as a cover.

I also say that "the industry" is liable and chargeable along with the insurance companies for this loophole.