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Old 12-22-2008, 06:22 PM
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Default Flying J files for Bankruptcy !!!

Who saw this coming ??? :eek2:


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Old 12-22-2008, 06:36 PM
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Who saw this coming ??? :eek2:


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Not a problem, Geo. Dubya will write them a check.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:40 PM
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Wow! It just keeps getting worse out there. Merry Christmas to those folks that I work with that pull the Flying J diesel huh? Man that sucks!

I don't know the particulars...........but I do know that Pilot has been an aggressive competitor to deal with. Pilot has fleets of tankers that do nothing but "chase fuel".................That is, there are too many drivers/tankers and they are able to converge on the terminal that has the cheapest fuel at any one time. It works though, as Pilot saves mega money this way. The drivers could care less as they are paid hourly and don't have a concern as to whether they pull 4 loads or 1 load on a shift.

Sad news, this is.............
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:44 PM
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Not a problem, Geo. Dubya will write them a check.
Sorry sweetie, this is a trucking biz related topic that with your 34 minutes of experience at Swift, maybe you should step away from....:thumbsup:
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:52 PM
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Sorry sweetie, this is a trucking biz related topic that with your 34 minutes of experience at Swift, maybe you should step away from....:thumbsup:

Save your sorry for yourself. Sorry that you think that when a business struggles, regardless of what industry, that it doesn't effect everyone. Also, Flying J delivers to Swift terminals so it effects the company I work for directly. So, to disallow my comment because of your claim I lack the credentials, is absolutely ridiculous, but then, I have noticed that you tend to prefer personal comments to facts. :moon:

Sweetie? Are you my grandmother?
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Even though Flying J has been a successful company, it faced near-term liquidity pressure from an unprecedented combination of factors: the precipitous drop in the price of oil and the lack of available financing from its traditional sources due to disrupted credit markets. With a sudden and unanticipated inability to meet its liquidity needs, the company had no other choice than a Chapter 11 filing to provide the time to work through a solution.
sounds like me,I'm also having liquidity pressure.
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Now back to the topic at hand.... Hard to believe the the mormons did not bail out their fellow mormons....:lol::lol::lol:

Could not happen to a better company... They forgot who got them to the top.... No Comdata, Visa, piss poor customer service......
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There has been some talk about what the banks are doing with their bailout money... I think I have an idea on a couple.....


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Flying J. Files for Chapter 11 - WSJ.com

Flying J. Inc., a major independent oil refiner, filed for bankruptcy protection Monday, blaming the sharp decline in oil prices and turmoil in the credit markets for its financial woes.


Flying J., one the 20 largest privately owned companies in the U.S. with sales of more than $16.2 billion in 2007, sought Chapter 11 protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Del.


The collapse in oil prices caused the company's refining arm on Friday to default on a $200 million loan provided by a group of lenders led by Bank of America Corp., according to Mr. Adams. A day later, the company's distribution arm defaulted on a $120 million loan provided by a group of lenders led by Merrill Lynch Capital Corp.


Zion Bank, owed some $85 million, is Flying J.'s largest unsecured creditor, according to court filings. ConocoPhillips, owed $69.4 million, is second on the list of unsecured creditors. Denver's Berry Petroleum Co., owed $26.1 million, is third.
In addition to its refining and distribution businesses, Flying J. operates more than 250 travel plazas and gas stations throughout the U.S. and Canada and has interests in online banking, truck leasing and payroll services.
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sounds like me,I'm also having liquidity pressure.
Stop and take a leak. You'll feel better right away.
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Something must have happened..
Hard to believe the flyin hook filing for bankruptcy.
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