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10-24-2008, 04:02 AM

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Too bad you can not see both sides of an issue. Listen to yourself. You were right there to know that he experimented a couple of times and that was the end of it. He did not require any kind of help through any withdrawl from them. You were right there, weren't you? You do not have anymore proof than I have.

Well, here's a link to an article from FoxNews. Please read it. If FOX doesn't even claim he was an addict, I doubt you will find anyone with any credibility that will. Notice Giuliani's remarks. I welcome his "tolerance." If the choice for POTUS was between you and him, I would definitely vote for him. I don't think we need intolerance in the executive office.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312352,00.html

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Let he that is without sin cast the first stone... I have NEVER touched any of them. Have you? Can you honestly say that trying anything like that does not leave a lasting memory? And, again. How far into it did he get involved? Did he try it once and walk away from it? Or did it go on for a few years? Do you honestly know? You don't. But, he is innocent until proven guilty, I'll give you that.

Obviously, you misunderstand the scripture you quote, if you think the fact that you have never tried them gives you the moral high ground. Again, read the article. If there were ANY proof that Obama was ever addicted, or needed help to recover, the GOP (and even Clinton) would have been ALL over it. I'd call the LACK of any evidence or record of it is proof enough that it never happened. But, that doesn't seem to stop some people from making that claim.

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Yes. I have an opinion about ANYONE that has ever used drugs.

That is obvious, and goes to the credibility and impartiality of what you say and what you copy and paste here.

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In my view, there most certainly is a difference between LEGALLY PRESCRIBED, and SELF-PRESCRIBED when it comes to controlled substances. Not that the doctors that are doing all the prescribing know what they are doing either, but they are expected to know more than we do.

I didn't say there was no difference. I merely pointed out that the results are often the same. For the record, doctors prescribed my mother right into a mental hospital due to an addiction. So, I may have a slightly different perspective on the medical profession. And perhaps even a more tolerant and compassionate view of the user.

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You might want to check on company requirements on that one. I have not, recently, but I remember looking about a year or so ago, and with some companies, if you have EVER had any kind of conviction for drugs, you will NEVER drive for them. Not real sure, but I think UPS is one of them. If you have ever had a DUI, you will never drive for CFI (Conway Truckload). If you were "CAUGHT" experimenting in the past, it certainly does follow you and come down on you.

Did I say anything about a conviction?? But, on point, there is no evidence that Obama was ever convicted of anything.

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Did you ever get beyond your Dad's Theology? Like into a class on psycology? (I know I didn't spell that right, but go ahead and correct me if you feel like it.)

Yes. I have something like 18 college credits in psychology, sociology and interpersonal relationships. You? [but I still couldn't quite follow the point you were trying to make.]

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Read your own posts. See if anything looks familiar. Have you been equally touchy about things said about McCain?

I'm pretty sure none of my posts were attacking McCain. I've questioned his judgement, but honored his service and patriotism. I can't remember too many posts on here that have trashed him the way others have trashed Obama. If I had seen one, I probably WOULD have defended him.

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Thanks, but no thanks. After all these years, I really don't think there is all that much that I have been missing out on. But, you go ahead and be my guest.

It was a JOKE. Did you lose your sense of humor along with your reasoning?

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10-24-2008, 12:50 PM

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I don't remember suggesting that. Are you suggesting that if you do use that you are an addict?

I would guess that depends on just who you are listening to. If you go for alcohol abuse counselling, you'll find out that if you have more than one... JUST ONE, alcoholic beverage in a year, YOU'RE AN ALCOHOLIC. And, these are people with a PEDIGREE that are saying that. Now, translate that into drugs...

Yes, it would suggest that if you have tried drugs more than once in a year, you are an addict.

(PEDIGREE meaning people with all the degrees and certificates.)

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10-24-2008, 02:15 PM

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Drug/alcohol abuse is not what or how much you use/drink, but continuing in spite of negative consequences from that use.

That includes prescription narcotics.

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10-25-2008, 03:04 AM

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Why does this seem so TYPICAL from Obama Supporter mentallity?

Or are you going to tell me this is FAKE?

PROVEN FAKE! Charges pending. Typical race baiting. And no, McCain had nothing to do with it, just one of his crazy supporters.

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.....2.847628.html

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10-25-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by YankeeTURBO

I would guess that depends on just who you are listening to. If you go for alcohol abuse counselling, you'll find out that if you have more than one... JUST ONE, alcoholic beverage in a year, YOU'RE AN ALCOHOLIC. And, these are people with a PEDIGREE that are saying that. Now, translate that into drugs...

Yes, it would suggest that if you have tried drugs more than once in a year, you are an addict.

(PEDIGREE meaning people with all the degrees and certificates.)

I wish you'd find and quote one...JUST ONE... of these pedigreed SAP's who make this ridiculous claim. :hellno:

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10-26-2008, 02:19 AM

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Yes, it would suggest that if you have tried drugs more than once in a year, you are an addict.

Definition of addict:

1 : to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively <addicted to gambling>
2 : to cause addiction to a substance in (a person or animal)